Are ANY state approved degrees accepted? By whom?

I scoured this board for well over half an hour searching for the answer to this question. I did read "some do" accept state approved degrees what I like to know is: What institutions will accept it?

NO, I am NOT looking for a shortcut to a degree. I'm studying private investigation and quite frankly there are no definitive qualifications to work as a P.I. (in most cases). However I am transferring my current credits over to Lion Investigation Academy, who specializes in the training of P.I.'s and they offer an associate's degree. They are approved by the PA Dept. of Education (among others)http://www.lioninvestigationacademy.com/faq.htm

As I've read many of times on this board, a state approved degree will work for some individuals. Well, I am one of those individuals. I'd like to think there is hope for me to complete a bachelor's and eventually a master's in criminal justice.

Can anyone help me out here? I'd genuinely appreciate it.

 

New York

Hello,

I believe that New York's state Board is the only state authority recognized by the USDOE / CHEA as an accreditation authority. I also know that state approved means very different things in different circumstances, and I am sure other member's with more background in this area will be able to offer more advice. Good luck!

 

I am told that 96 % of human resources managers accept state approved degrees as being at least somewhat useful.

 

Try this place.

Some individuals have checked out various schools willing to accept unaccredited schools. You will have to search for threads.

http://www.collegehints.com/boards/



Note that acceptance would depend on individual circumstances.

 

Thanks for the replies.

Dennis,

The degree will be plenty enough to get me hired, I just need to know if I stand a snowcone's chance in "hot place" of transferring those credits.

 

There's very little chance that unaccredited credits will transfer directly to an accredited school.

 

In any event, it sounds like you are in an interesting program!

Do you get to wear an old fedora, pulled low over your eyes??

Or maybe get a special price on a battered, cigarette burnt wooden desk and chair set? Maybe they'd throw in a silver hip flask?

There ought to be a catalog somewhere...say at shaymus.com or something...

Good luck in your studies! Don't worry too much about transferring credits; occupational studies often won't transfer out of an A.A.S. program even if the program IS accredited. The value in your program is in what you actually learn, which will probably be a considerable amount.

 

Nosborne,

Unfortunately, no cool perks for me. As I've come to learn during my studies, the P.I. has no more special rights than a regular citizen.

I know I shouldn't worry about transferring credits as the associate degree will do me just fine. I was just hoping that wasn't the end of the world. Transfer into another state approved school perhaps?

I really apprecite everyone's help in this.

 

I'd like to see the source for that information. Having done research in that field, I know no one else has collected data and published it besides me. Without some substantiation, I reject this claim.

 

Toilet paper is always useful!

 

Apparently Rich wrote it. Why would you comment on his dissertation like that?

 

Dennis did you pull the 96% figure out of thin air or ?

 

There are hundreds of diploma mills that would love to accept your money. There are also dozens of state licensed schools that would also be happy to accept your money. You could probably lie about having a master's degree and even get into most of the state licensed PhD programs, if you had the money.

 

I doubt whether 96% of HR managers agree on anything...

This reminds of an old math joke:

Did you know that 5 out of 4 people have trouble with fractions?

Dave

 

I did not. "I am told"? "Apparently,...."? You're simply repeating (erroneous) statements made elsewhere by James Crabbe ("kf5k" here). He's wrong, and so are you. I hope you do a better job using credible sources when writing your dissertation for your CCU DBA. Oh, um, never mind.

Crabbe is a simpleton with no legitimate credentials indicating fitness to comment on my or anyone else's dissertation. I don't know where he got that figure, but it appears to be either a lie or his inability to understand what he's reading. Dennis's willingness to repeat it here is unfortunate.

 

Bill, at what point do I come off as wanting a degree from a diploma mill or some useless licensed school such as most of those in Wyoming (or a Barrington). So far as I can tell, and please let me know if I'm wrong here, I was asking a legitimate question. Lion offers the only DL associate's degree in private investigation that I am aware of so that's what prompted the question.

With all due respect Bill, I think you were a bit too presumptuous. If I wanted a fake degree, I wouldn't have proposed this question. I'd have just gone ahead and bought it.

 

OK - what is the percentage that indicated any degree of usefulness of state approved degrees?

Was I doing research? I thought I was just repeating your research.

 

No, you were repeating mis-statements made about it by someone else. Relying upon those statements--and repeating them here as if they were true--is a mistake. Get your facts straight.

 

James said very little. He did not dispute that it was doctoral quality, although he implied it was PhD-lite.

I thought he was simply repeating data when he said that all levels of worthiness of a state approved degrees including minimal worthiness changed from 96 % to 65 % after your subjective comments concerning state approved degrees.

Is the gist of this wrong?

 

Rich


Quote:


"When State Approval was offered without a description. almost 96% of participants rated it at (LEAST) "Somewhat Acceptable" Even after reading the provided description of State Approval, slightly (MORE) than 65% of participants still rated it at (LEAST) "Somewhat Acceptable." This leads one to conclude that two-thirds (OR EVEN MORE) of employers may accept degrees from unaccredited, but state-approved, schools."
--Richard C. Douglas, page 136, THE ACCREDITATION OF DEGREE-GRANTING INSTITUTIONS AND ITS ROLE IN THE UTILITY OF COLLEGE DEGREES IN THE WORKPLACE, 2003


So what gives? Are these not your words?