Anaheim's Cheap DBA

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  1. Gabe F.

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    Just another DEAC-accredited for profit school. Period.
     
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    Yes it is, and that meets someone's need than that's a fairly low price for it.
     
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    Yup, will look good on the bio page of an annual report. Not everyone who peruses a degree is looking to teach at a university
     
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    And exactly how many colleges and universities do not make a "profit"? Even nonprofits make profit or they couldn't continue. Public institutions for the most part didn't have private individuals or companies putting up the capital to start them. Some for profits are bad, same can be said of some nonprofits. As to the DEAC comment, everyone is entitled to an opinion. In the opinion of the US Department of Education and CHEA, DEAC accreditation is valid and good.

    As to cost for the student, many RA schools are becoming competitive with DEAC schools, which is great. Some DEAC schools have decades of experience in delivering quality programs by distance. For many RA schools distance education is an afterthought and/or new. Each has their benefits and drawbacks.

    Does that mean DEAC degrees always meet the requirements of employers, governments or graduate schools, no but neither does an RA degree. Quick example, psychology. Some states have a requirement that the psychology program must be recognized, approved, and accredited by the APA. If no, no license. You must look at all aspects of a school to decide if it meets your needs.
     
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    Looking at the "where our graduates work" page, it seems like the places are exclusively companies and city governments. No universities. Nothing wrong with this; just different objectives.
     
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    Dba

    How much we can earn, if we have done a DBA? :ponder:
     
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    A DEAC DBA will not give you access to teaching opportunities that require a DBA nor senior executive positions that might profit from a DBA.
    It works for self improvement and to be able to put "Dr" in your business cards. Some people pay almost as much for religious exempt degrees for the same purpose so I would say the 11K is not a bad deal for your ego.
     
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    In a different threat we are discussing the value of a PhD from Capella, it seems that several work at Anaheim University. A link below with few faculty graduated from this school:

    https://www.anaheim.edu/online-busin...anagement.html

    The question is if Capella graduates teach at places like Anaheim (DEAC accredited school), what is the market for DBAs from Anaheim? Normally a graduate of one school finds a job at a school with the same or lower reputation. If you graduate from the bottom of bottom, what is the market for you? My guess unaccredited schools such as Rushmore, Breyer State, etc would be good candidates for employment with a DBA from this school.
     
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    Rushore and Breyer State are mills.
     
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    They still pay people to teach classes. Before I got my doctorate, I was offered a position as an adjunct a BS, it paid very little but my guess is that they would rather someone with an accredited DBA.
     
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    I wish people wouldn't just recite their guesses as though they were facts. It's okay that some of these things are unknown.
     
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    These are educated guesses, if we see that people with better degrees struggle to get positions at bottom schools, what is the market for these people with bottom of bottom degrees? Unaccredited schools? Training institutes? Are these guesses not based on facts and logic? If you have a better one, I would like to hear it.
     
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    According to my extensive research. with a DEAC-accredited DBA you can earn 25 cents more per hour.

    With an RA DBA, you can earn 50 cents more per hour.

    With an RA Ph.D., you can earn an entire dollar more per hour.

    Unless you are salaried rather than hourly, in which case the increased demands on your time could result in a net loss.

    However, calculating the ROI on any of these degrees depends on how much tuition you paid for them. Which would come under further research, for which I have neither time nor interest.

    Thank you. Thank you very much.
     
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    Some people would have a problem with a DEAC degree even if it's from a non-profit, and I say that having seen people here trash non-profit DEAC schools. So the hate is really about hating the DEAC rather than the tax status of its schools.
     
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    And some people use emotional rhetoric through words like “hate.”

    I, for example, have never stated that I “hate” anything. Indeed, I neither hate DEAC nor any of their schools. I mock them – there’s a big difference. Sometimes I laugh my ass off at them. But I don’t hate them.

    And there are a few DEAC schools that I’ve been impressed with over the years. (No, I won’t name them.) But they do not include DEAC accrediting schools that grant doctoral degrees. That, IMO, is a joke.

    So universally, I have never trashed all DEAC schools. I do tend to trash most, but not all, proprietary (profit-making) schools, including those that are regionally accredited.

    But then, my degrees are all from RA, non-profit schools. And, as everyone knows, that makes me like Ivory soap: 99-44/100% pure.

    BTW, I do agree with the notion that many people pursue a doctorate (regardless of the corporate status or accreditation) simply want to be called “Doctor.” In other words, they have fragile egos. In still other words, if you’ve got it, flaunt it. I never came from that school of thinking, and even when I taught in the grad school environment (RA and non-profit), I was called by my first name. Because when you’ve got the real thing, you don’t have to flaunt it. I simply have a quiet awareness that I’m better than most of you, whether you like it or not. :yup:

    And no, I take none of this seriously. :tongue:
     
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    I just looked on the first linked page (Post 1) and it seems they have some very well educated people teaching there. Even a couple of Harvard grads.
     
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    I noticed the same thing. It is always a bit curious to me to see faculties with extremely highly credentialed professors alongside those from less well-known or objectively less "prestigious" institutions. I assume much of the discrepancies has to do with exceptional professional work that those with credentials from the less well-known schools have done.
     
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    Many times this faculty coming from prestigious schools that teach at non ranked places are just "rented". This means that the faculty graduated from Harvard has a full time employment somewhere else and just perceive as stipend or small salary from the school in question to use their name and prestige.

    In any case, if Harvard graduates are teaching at Anaheim what is the hope for graduates at Anaheim? Again, I believe these degrees are mainly for personal development purposes and can be used to increase the profile of a resume with the doctor title but do expect to be a game changer in your career.
     
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    I'm not so sure; how many people have we seen gain positions with completely bogus degrees? A legitimately-accredited DBA from Anaheim probably won't land you a tenured position at Harvard Business School, but it might be perfectly acceptable for someone needing to check the box for a doctorate for a community college or small private college.
     

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