Accredited Degree for Prior Work Experience, Dream or Reallity ?

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  1. Alex M

    Alex M New Member

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    Hi Guys

    I just need to ask , is an Accredited Degree for work experience exist or not ;)

    I have 10 years of Professional work experience , money is not a matter for me just I want to have a Master Degree :D

    I got my Bachelor before but I can't go to class or even through the online education, I'm busy guy .. :(
     
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    Masters degree are based on new experiences. You could "test out" of a bachelors but not a masters (at least not that I know of).
     
  3. Alex M

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    Could you please suggest me an institute which provides Bachelor Degree with Work Experience ? ( so I can get another degree with my work experience )

    Thank you so much
     
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    You could look at Charter Oak State College, Thomas Edison, and Excelsior (otherwise known as the Big 3). You can submit work for portfolio credits or test out by taking equivency tests on subjects.
     
  5. Ian Anderson

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    For the portfolio approach check out the links provided by Chip in post #4 on this thread:
    http://www.degreeinfo.com/showthread.php?t=30403
    Some prior learning courses at TESC are listed here:
    http://www.tesc.edu/listallc.php?type=PA
    http://www.tesc.edu/4842.php

    Nowadays the portfolio route looks like an expensive proposition ($175 per unit at TESC).

    For a second bachelors degree at one of the big three you would need 30 additional semester units. This assumes that you meet all the other degree requirements and that you meet any of the other requirements.
     
  6. Alex M

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    So it's not possible to get a Degree / Certificate with Work Experience ..

    I need something like this :
    (gratuitious plug for fake school removed by moderator)

    But something Accredited ( not Fake Accredited )

    I can pay $10k to get an Accredited Document Like that but I can't go Go University and Study anymore :( , this is the reason I'm looking for such degree
     
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    Hi Alex - I'm sorry but I messed up the link you provided because we don't like providing advertising for degree mills on this board.

    I'd like to suggest that you visit the following website:

    http://bain4weeks.com/

    You will not find any accredited university to simply give you a degree if you send them your resume (work experience) You actually have to prove that you know all that stuff. Prove it's true, not just claim it's true.
     
  8. Ian Anderson

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    Alex,

    But what you might be able to obtain is membership in a professional society. Note that I belong to such a body and I find that gets me as much recognition as my masters degrees. One reason is that employers (or clients) like employees to have membership in a professional organization is that the member has the opportunity to keep his knowledge updated and current by reading journals and attending conferences. Membership also allows for networking amongst peers. You will obtain a membership certificate which often looks good on your office wall.

    In what profession or business area did you obtain your work experience?
     
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    Well, would 21 Graduate hours count as a Master's of sorts? (Said figure is based on the ACE Recommended credit for the USAF Air Command and Staff College...)
     
  10. Ted Heiks

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    Most master's degrees are 30 semester hours of graduate credit.
     
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    From an educators viewpoint this is an interesting question. The required/desired outcome of a course is utility in the form of a marketable competency or suite of knowledge and/or skills.

    If the cadidiate can already demonstrate the outcome, by whatever means, and preferably by more than one means, have they met the requirements for that unit? How could the examiner be justified in requiring that person to undertake the learning experience/contract for the unit?

    The other side of this argument of course is that this is exactly what degree mill operators argue to grant people complete degrees, and also why many universitied demand that a certain amount of study must be done through them.

    I have just assessed a BBA and MBA graduate of The International University of Missouri. An 8 unit BBA and a 9 unit MBA and this was accepted for residency purposes by both the migration attorney and the Department of Immigration. She said to me that she had done a lot of study but her experience was 'recognised' ... well it wasn't on the transcript! Today I sent her off 3 basic accounting closed book exams to be done over the weekend without any preparation, and under the supervision of a proctor.

    Those of us who have studied and practice in the area of recognition of prior or experential learning will always ensure that the claimed skills DO exist, hence the multiple and varied supporting and independent assessment methods including the element of surprise.

    So, Alex, would you agree to your 'experience' being verified this way? It is quite interesting how many decide that they would rather do the coursework :)
     
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    No, because ACE recommended still means that a college has to accept them as graduate credits. Before that happens, they are not credits. And unfortunately, you won't find a school that accepts 21 credits into a masters program (if you do, let me know!! ;)). 9 is usually the most for a 30-ish credit program.
     
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    I have another problem , I live in UAE ( Dubai ), so these options doesn't work for me :(

    I work for Samsung .. , I have a Bachelor in Computer Science :(
     
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    Hi Alex - you're going to have to help me out. I don't understand why these suggestions won't work if you're in UAE.
     
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    TESC accepts up to 12 credits for ACE courses evaluated at the graduate level for their MSLS;
    Source: http://www.tesc.edu/2356.php
     
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    I just noticed, on this site, that TESC allows students to "develop a graduate-level Prior Learning Assessment portfolio, demonstrating the graduate-level knowledge you’ve acquired in work, training, or other programs."
     
  18. Dr. Margoli Satrau

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    It is refreshing to see the informed replies from everyone. I read several posts about Northwestern International University, Cypress location. In that it is not a valid educational institution and only a degree paper mill. I myself, do not know that it is a paper mill, but I do know that there is nothing wrong with a person obtaining a degree based on the work experience and knowledge they have accquired throughout their lifetime and being able to verify it. I myself began my learning at the age of 2, my father taught me to read at an early age, so I had an advantage. I skipped two grades in school once in elementry and in junior high. My point is that I was so hungry for knowledge, one month out of high school I attended a finishing school for office occupations. I then immediately began working for law enforcement, before I was 21. I have held over fifty occupations, and moved up the ranks quickly due to my promotions for learning the job well, work ethics, and so forth. I attended numerous educational classes while employed in government jobs 28 years. I have attended classes at two community colleges, a private exclusive college, government sponsored classes, and the university of phoenix, which is in my opinion a papermill that hands out degrees as long as you attend class and have your employer pay for your classes. This is not about sour grapes, this about the truth. Therefore, what I am trying to convey is that issue is taken with Northwestern International U, for giving you a degree, based on knowledge learned and studies accepted by the University, seems, trifle. The gripe seems to be that students must spend years at a college to get a degree, and other people spend very little time and money and also receive a degree. It seems to me that the smarter of the two are the students who have enough work experience and educational learning, they have been there and done that. The submit work and educational data, pay the fees and receive their degrees. Why should they have to pay alot of money for their degrees, by this time we are seniors. I raised twelve children at different times in my life, maintained full-time jobs, continued taking classes till age 58, so you tell me why I should not receive a college degree based on work experience and college credits and minimal amount of money paid. I see nothing wrong with that. Of course, degrees in the medical profession do not fall in this category. Highly specialized degrees cannot fall in this category, because a person is not allowed to work in these areas or gain experience without having a degree in the first place. In the areas of teaching, business, agriculture, building trades, and the like, I think that an institution like Northwestern International University and others should take their place along other institutions of learning. Thank you for allowing me to voice my point of view, and please do not be offended. My intent is to inform and educate not antagonize. Live Laugh Love - the title of one of my favorite books, I wish this for you. (author: Leo F. Buscaglia, Phd.) University Professor and promoter of Happiness and Love.
     
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    The university mentioned by pfrench (located in Dubai as well), has their accreditation page on their website written in "mill speak". I am not sure if they are legit or not.
    The bogus university mentioned by the above poster is a flat-out mill. I won't post a direct link to their .com selling degrees on the homepage for flat fees, but it's an outright falsification no matter how hard you try to justify it.
     
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    Well, first, with writing like the above, one would never be able to earn a legitimate masters degree. Paragraphs are your friend!

    Secondly, Northwestern International is clearly a worthless program. If you look at the warning signs for an unwonderful program

    http://articles.degreeinfo.com/article12_1.html
    http://articles.degreeinfo.com/article20_1.html

    this "school" fits just about all of the criteria. I give extra chutzpah for admitting that the school accredits itself.

    If someone is insistent in getting a degree from a worthless program such as this, then save the $500, and design yourself a diploma using MS Word, and print it out on some nice parchment paper available from your local office supply. You can even buy a nifty gold foil seal for extra snazziness!

    The diploma you design and print out will be just as worthless as one from these bunch of clowns.
     

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