Abner & Kim Reported to Have Died

Rhonda posted this in the thread https://www.degreeinfo.com/index.php?threads/my-wifes-cancer.55807/, where it could get lost, so I've reposted it here.

So far, I've seen no confirmation of this. However, Abner has not posted on his Facebook page since 7/17/19, and Kim's last post to her Facebook page was on 8/28/19. Rhonda is not listed as a friend on either of their Facebook pages, but Kim is listed as a friend on Rhonda's Facebook page. There was no obit on Abner in their local newspaper (the Orange County Register), nor on Kim (but it would be too early for that at this time). Based on Kim's inclusion on Rhonda's friend list, it would appear that this is a legit report.

Abner was a member of DI for over 15 years and had posted over 8,500 messages, currently the 6th highest count of all users.

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This is shocking news, I hope it's not true.

 

I hope it's not true but it's hard to imagine anyone making this up. I hope that anyone with more info will come forward.

 

Where is Jimmy Clifton now that we need him?

(Jimmy was the one who broke the news about Uncle Janko's death in January 2009. He was unofficially the death reporter on DI and DD for many years.)

Ah, well . . . In honor of Abner and Kim, I shall refrain from any death jokes, at least for a day or two.

 

Condolences.

 

Very sad. Abner was one of my favourites. My condolences to both of the families.

 

I’m sorry everyone. I did not know Abner personally but I used to work with Kim. This sad news is true. I only joined this group to inform all of you.

 

Heartbroken over the news of the passing of these two beautiful souls. Our long time friends Abner and Kim have joined each other in heaven ... just two weeks apart. Hard to imagine this has happened but trying to take comfort knowing they are together in God's perfect peace. I'll always remember them like this ... so full of life. <3 <3
Maria Carrasco wrote this on Facebook

 

Very sad news. My condolences to their family and friends.

 

Rhonda - If an obituary ever appears please send us a link or otherwise post it here. Thanks for the news, even if it's very sad.

 

I sure will.

 

Deborah Padavan's Facebook page. After scrolling through lots of pro-Trump stuff, one comes to this:
"Please say a prayer, I did not know her, but she was a fellow peach sister who has lost her fight. Kimberly Lawless Ivora hadn't been on the group for about a year because she had made A page for her fight, so she could keep everyone updated. Sweet Kim Lost her battle yesterday. She had just had a birthday a few weeks ago and had posted updates on her condition which were no so good but postivie on new treatments. Im not sure what happen only that her bestfriend posted she was in a coma on life support. A few days prior she was hee upbeat self. Nonetheless she is no longer suffering and hee fight is now over. Rip"

 

Finally, a confirmation – Kim’s obit, which includes a note that she was predeceased by Abner:

https://www.legacy.com/funeral-homes/obituaries/name/kimberly-lawlessivora-obituary?sid=107638370&v=forestlawn&pid=194172358&view=guestbook

Along with the usual tribute comments, here’s the essence of the obit itself (emphasis added):

Beloved daughter, Kimberly Suzanne Lawless Ivora left this world too soon on September 15th, 2019. Kimberly grew up in Cypress, Ca with her mother Phyllis and grandmother Sally, both of whom who adored her. Kimberly attended Cypress and Fullerton Colleges, graduating from Fullerton College in 2003 with an Associate Degree in Fine Arts.

Kimberly was a lover of all animals, an avid reader, a poetic and poignant writer, a talented artist and cake decorator, as well as a passionate advocate for women's rights. She was introverted and outgoing. Funny and shy. Her gorgeous red, curly, and exceptionally long hair was a signature, along with her infectious smile and bigger-than-life laughter. She was a fiercely loyal friend, and her family meant everything to her.

Kimberly was predeceased by High School Sweetheart turned husband of 27 years Abner Michael Ivora, Maternal Grandparents Tony and Sally Boscia , as well as other close relatives. She is survived by her Mother Phyllis Lawless of Ca who was her best friend, Father Martin John Lawless, Jr., of NH, Sisters Kathryn Bastinelli, Amy Ruth Wojtkun, Sarah Ann Lawless, and brother Riley Lawless. She is also survived by numerous aunts, uncles, cousins, nieces, nephews, other family members and many cherished friends.

Please always remember Kimberly by living life to the fullest, remaining positive, and being as kind as possible to every living creature. Her memories will live on in all of us, and her bright and brilliant spirit will never go out.​

Since she was laid to rest at one of the world-famous Forest Lawn locations, here is the ultimate tribute to Forest Lawn by folk singer/composer Tom Paxton:



In other news, Abner and Kim are still dead.

 

I am truly sorry that Abner is no longer with us. I think he was a good guy. He came off as a humble down-to-earth person. A big loss for the DIers community. In the end, nothing matters.

 

I was discussing the Abner situation with a Roman Catholic friend. He says that suicide is regarded as a sin by most RCs, not only is their often no burial service, but no obituary either. Just wondering.

 

The quote that Steve F. provided would suggest that it was not a suicide, but one never knows - Abner was known to us as going through occasional depression (no wonder in light of everything Kim went through).

If it were suicide, however, one could speculate that it was due to having NA degrees instead of RA degrees. Just speculating, of course, but it's enough to stress the importance of going for RA degrees.

 

This development makes me appreciate Abner even more. I never met the guy, but he seems that he was the kind of person one should have as a friend. His genuineness came through on DI.