A race to the bottom?

Discussion in 'Political Discussions' started by chrisjm18, Jul 25, 2022.

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  1. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Trinity Newburgh: Favorite target of a certain PhD trucker we once knew. Eerie, mocking laughter could be heard in Indiana, as he drove past in his 18-wheeler. What a colorful path! Trinity of the Yellow Liverpool Stickers, Canterbury endorsements, Uni. of Wales validation, RA (not achieved) DEAC (not achieved) and finally, the auction block, as Dr. Bear reported.

    But Trinity still lives! (Accreditation-free, of course.) I was just looking at the site. Amazing what faith can accomplish, isn't it? :)
     
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  2. Garp

    Garp Well-Known Member

    They seemed to have frittered away opportunity. They had credible faculty attached, a campus, and perhaps a shot at accreditation. Their former VP (Frye ?) became a whistle blower about unsavoury internal practices and financial issues. If I recall correctly, he said part of their business model was predatory in that they got people signed up knowing that large numbers would drop out and they had the cash without a lot of work. In fact, he said they would have been in trouble in terms of resources being stretched had those students actually stayed.

    He made me laugh when he noted that the really bad Masters School of Divinity (not to be confused with The Masters Seminary) had low low standards at the time (bad). Trinity allegedly told the accreditor they were separate from Trinity. He said they told them this while the RA inspection team was wandering around the hallway past a room that Trinity was printing the Masters School of Divinity material.
     
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  3. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Yes - that famous letter killed their RA chances, right before the final site visit. Somebody leaked the letter quite a few years ago. Then there was DEAC... Now, they're uh- untroubled by accreditation issues :)
     
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  4. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Educated people might catch on to what they're up to.
     
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  5. Garp

    Garp Well-Known Member

    Their history of multiple failed attempts at accreditation alone are rather stigmatizing. I am not sure they can come back from it. Posting that you are unaccredited but taking the high road and known for decades for quality education is somewhat overshadowed by multiple failed accreditation attempts, loss of infrastructure and so on.
     
  6. Garp

    Garp Well-Known Member

    But then a lot of unaccredited institutions try the line, "Accreditation? Accreditation? We don't need no stinkin accreditation".
     
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  7. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    I once got the side-eye on another degree forum years ago - I quoted the original "We don't need no stinkin' badges etc." from the book, "Treasure of the Sierra Madre." - it contains VERY salacious Spanish and some profane English, both of which were censored-out of the movie. It's on this page if anyone is curious and wants to see it - I'm not going through THAT again. :) Some people thought it was mine - not a quote.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stinking_badges
     
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  8. Garp

    Garp Well-Known Member

    I did not know the whole quote! Love it. Fits better too.
     
  9. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    I suspect a lot of people believe the line originates not in the novel, not in the film, but in Blazing Saddles, where Mel Brooks' parody of the scene was so spot-on it became famous all on its own.
     
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  10. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    I just read the original line from the book. (Thanks for the link.) Let's just say that, having grown up just a few miles from Mexico, the language was, um, quite familiar. Yeah, familiar. We'll go with that.
     
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