89% College Students Using ChatGPT

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  1. LevelUP

    LevelUP Active Member


    TEKMAN Semper Fi!

    Cheating! ChatGPT written essays can be reserved. I use ChatGPT almost every day to write up vulnerability and threat descriptions. But I would never used it in academic writing. It is good to ask a question for informational purposes.

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  3. Dustin

    Dustin Well-Known Member

    I have serious doubts about that number, but here's the source: https://study.com/resources/perceptions-of-chatgpt-in-schools

    "Over 9 in 10 students are aware of ChatGPT, far more than grade school educators.
    Over 89% of students have used ChatGPT to help with a homework assignment."

    That would mean virtually every student who was aware of ChatGPT then used it for help with their homework. I just can't believe numbers that high. Is there something specific about a convenience sample assembled from Study.com that would make visitors there more likely to use ChatGPT?
  4. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    I think a key to this is using Bloom's Taxonomy, going further up in rigor, demanding more complexity in assignments. But...

    They're hard to create and they're more labor-intensive to grade. That's why so many systems like things like multiple-choice tests. Easy to create and less labor intensive to grade. But security has to be strong around both the exam and determining who is actually taking them.

    The best way to test humans is in problem-solving.
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  5. LevelUP

    LevelUP Active Member

    I have my doubts as well.

    Amazingly, ChatGPT got 100 million users in just 2 months, which makes it the fastest-growing app in history


    AI is the biggest invention since the Internet. It will change our lives.

    Be polite to ChatGPT, just in case.
  6. laferney

    laferney Active Member

    Related to this I have seen a couple of the tests I created for my in class psychology college courses for when I taught now online. It was a while ago . I have mixed feelings. If it helps students prepare for their courses great but it seems like cheating.
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  7. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Right, It does seem like cheating. Maybe that's exactly what it is. It's having a person (albeit an artificial one) write "your" stuff. My take: Using this is just like ordering from an "essay-writing service." (A corporation is an "artificial person," too.)

    No style to this stuff. It reads like a template with filled-in blanks. Like a website for a degree mill. Or outsourced to an offshore shop. To me, it sticks out a mile - but I don't mark essays. I just read a fair bit and write the odd thing, here and there.
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  8. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    There's a minefield of difference between this and something like "Grammarly."
  9. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    This sounds like the sort of fact that would come from ChatGPT.
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  10. Dustin

    Dustin Well-Known Member

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  11. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    I think the best comment I've seen on students using ChatGPT is, "Yes, it can write your term paper, but you'll get an F."
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  12. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Humans have been using technology to raise the human condition since...forever. This is no different.

    AI will, like previous forms of technology--replace drudgery in our lives. This will free us to higher level pursuits.

    Modern forms of agriculture and meat processing mean we no longer have to hunt for food or to grow it. Yet, people still do.

    Example: if AI allowed you to get into a car and not operate it yourself while it took you to, say, work, might you show up to work more refreshed? More relaxed? Might you use that time more productively? The technology would have replaced the need to manually operate the machine, freeing you up for other things.

    But sometimes this doesn't work out. For example, I used to work on airplanes. I just finished a business trip that had two 2.5-hour plane rides. In the past, I'd use that time to write. But now, flying "economy" (ugh--I was flying at my client's expense) means you can't even open a laptop without some chucklehead leaning back and smashing your screen. So, I read on a small Kindle I purchased for just such situations, and think about what I could be doing in first class if this was on my dime. The technology was supposed to make things better, but instead it enabled the airline to make things better for themselves (by cramming more people--fares--into the same space). In fact, advances in technology have enabled them to be more precise in predicting ticketing so they're able to fill more flights to capacity. That cherished, almost-never-filled center seat is rarely there for you anymore.

    So, it can cut both ways. But despite bumps in the road, advances in technology have made life easier, richer, and longer. It's society that sometimes fails its members.
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  13. LevelUP

    LevelUP Active Member

    The commenter might have been referring to this article:

    ChatGPT Can Write Your Term Paper, But Expect an ‘F’

    Quote from the article:
    "All ChatGPT can do is survey what’s already available on the internet and rearrange it. But ask ChatGPT to go beyond what’s on Wikipedia, and it flops. Badly."

    ChatGPT can do creative things; however, it needs the correct prompts.

    ChatGPT requires a somewhat new skill set called “prompt engineering,” as a commenter pointed out.

    A college student used GPT-3 to write fake blog posts and ended up at the top of Hacker News

    People reading books, blog posts, etc are looking for new ideas and not just a rearrangement of old ideas. This is where human writers are needed.
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  14. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    I don't know... that describes an awful lot of education journalism. For an example, look at the repetitive, derivative coverage of ChatGPT.
  15. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Yeah. It often reads like coverage of ChatGPT - written by ChatGPT. :(
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  16. JoshD

    JoshD Well-Known Member

    Interestingly enough, my professors have encouraged the use of ChatGPT to see if it is capable of accurately explaining the more difficult machine learning concepts, especially while learning about NLP and CV.

    They have voiced their opinion being that it is just another tool that can be utilized in the learning process. They have cautioned that it can “make stuff up” and to be cautious but to use it as a guide to help if needed.
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  17. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    So can students --- and they do. Quite often.
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  18. JoshD

    JoshD Well-Known Member

    That is true. However, it is tough to “bs” one’s way through NLP (Natural Language Processing) and CV (Computer Vision).
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  19. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Right - But people who BS their way through, avoid tough programs. They have it down to a science - a B.S. in B.S. :)
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  20. Trek

    Trek Member

    There's absolutely something wrong with that article. Perhaps they meant 89% of the aware student used it, but even that is rather high.
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