Discussion in 'Nursing and medical-related degrees' started by sanantone, Jun 28, 2013.
Most research doctorates require 30 semester hours (or 45 quarter hours) of dissertation.
Well, then, that makes the difference even greater. The programs I've been looking at require less, but still a lot more than ASU's program.
It looks like a professional Doctorate that is often programmed in Australia. This is regarded here as being below a PhD in status but is still a worthy Doctorate focused on industry, not academia. Most are completed here by doing the project phase on a work based issue so a lot can be done at work with the employer's consent. Having the employer involved seems to be a key issue here for success.
Universities here are trying to build relevancy to the workplace for marketing and funding issues. This is a way to do it with everybody getting a win. Bringing the workplace into the equation may shorten the duration because the student is actually doing something at work that can be applied to the degree. The question may be about the ownership of the intellectual property developed in the project or disclosure of negative information to third parties, but I am sure that this would be worked out beforehand. Employers here like to own the intellectual property before they agree to it in many cases. Competitive advantage is a key word.
Charles Sturt has an interesting Doctor of Information Technology. It is a Distance, research program and states it is "international friendly".
Course overview | Doctor of Information Technology | Postgraduate | Courses | Charles Sturt University
No one said that.
Everything? Really? "Everything" is a pretty big notion, especially given the amount of factual information offered and supported on this thread.
Good luck with your program.
Where? I've looked around a lot, and I've seen 12 and I've seen 18, but I've never seen 30.
Seems a bit high to me, too. My experience is consistent with Steve's.
What facts? The fact is that people ARE finishing this program within 2 years. The fact is that the applied research project is NOT as involved as the typical dissertation. If it were, it wouldn't be 5 credit hours and people wouldn't be finishing within 2 years. I'm not applying to the program. It's too expensive for me.
You're not applying? But you're the OP. You're the one who expressed interest in this thing in the first place. Oh, my.
I'm just informing others that the option exists.
I looked at this a while back. Seems like a very interesting program. If I recall correctly it was around $60k and took six+ years to complete.
To me if it's not medical, it's not a professional doctorate- and that would be incorrect.
So when an employer asks about your dissertation? Awkward.
I've held the PhD for 11 years. No employer has ever asked.
Nope. Three kinds of doctorates:
1. Academic. The program and resulting original research is based in the academic discipline's scholarly work and theories. Normally the PhD, in some systems (like in the U.S.), it can also result in some alternative titles (like the DBA or EdD).
2. Professional. The program and resulting original research is based in the discipline's practice. It also accommodates the discipline's scholarly work and theories, but is practice-oriented. The title awarded is almost always an alternative to the PhD.
3. First Professional. This is actually not a type of doctorate. Instead, it is the degree that qualifies one to enter a particular profession. In times past, that might not be a doctorate (like the LLB for lawyers or the BPharm for pharmacists). But these days, almost all these programs result in a doctorate. These doctorates are practice-oriented and do not result in original research. In these professions, the title "doctor" is almost never used in the practice (except for physicians and some para-medicals like chiropractics and optometrists). In the medical field, the term "doctor" is more a result of that person's admission to the profession, rather than the degree conferred.
In times present, the engineering community still applies the term "first professional degree" to ABET-accredited BS degrees, which are licensure qualifying. Same is true in architecture with NAAB-accredited BArch degrees. They are distinguished from non-ABET or non-NAAB bachelor's degrees in engineering or architecture, which also exist but which are not considered "first professional degrees".
Very nice examples!
I expect there are other fields where undergraduate degrees are still regarded as the "first professional degrees". For example, the Bachelor of Science in Nursing (BSN) is often described that way, as it is here:
The Doctor of Medicine degree is a first professional degree, not a professional doctorate.
Resurrecting this thread; One of my fellow students in my Psychotherapy course at UC is currently in the defense portion of his culminating project at ASU for the DBH. He's actually pursuing a PhD in Psychology through UC - go figure. If anyone's interested, I'll see if I can get his POV about the program, how long it took him, course load, so on, and so forth.
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