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  1. Gus Sainz

    Gus Sainz New Member

    OK, so this is really going to bake your noodle: I was, and continue to be, a DL tutor for medical practitioners. My company (in cooperation with the University of Iowa) was one of the first in the United States to market CME courses to medical doctors via distance learning. In other words, according to your nomenclature, I am the GOD’s GOD. :D

    Moreover, I’ve been doing it for over twenty years. Is that long enough?:

    I’ve never disputed that. My point is that this work lacks appropriate oversight, guidance and review. Moreover, the work, regardless of the quality, in no way, shape, or form renders these institutions, or the degrees they confer, legitimate. You can do a lot of work for a Trinity College and University degree, but the truth is, you really don’t have to.

    I guess you are simply unaware of how puerile you sound, Dr. Hayes.
    But of course they are; honor among thieves and all that rot. :rolleyes:


    (Is it just me? I haven’t laughed so hard in ages—the kind of laughter that elicits streams of tears.)


    C’mon Dr. Hayes, be honest; have you ever eaten NZ Brown Teal? Not even a tiny bite? If not, how do you know the species is worth saving? :D :D :D
     
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  2. fnhayes

    fnhayes New Member

    Gus, For a change I agree with most of what you say, apart from the last bit. If you read my book you will know why brown teal are worth saving. :)
     
  3. Gus Sainz

    Gus Sainz New Member

    You didn’t answer my question. C’mon Dr. Hayes, have you tasted NZ Brown Teal? You’ve been around them for thirty years, surely your curiosity must’ve been aroused at some time.

    I’m not saying you had to kill the bird yourself. It could’ve, for example, simply suffered an unfortunate skateboarding accident or something. Or maybe the Brown Teal was cleaning its gun one day and it accidentally went off (these things happen). In any event, you surely couldn’t have been expected to leave a perfectly good and edible (not to mention probably delectable) carcass there to rot, could you? That would've been both environmentally unsound and wasteful. So, what does it taste like? Does the flesh have more or less fat or is the taste gamier than that of wild duck? :D
     
  4. fnhayes

    fnhayes New Member

    Gus, I have never eaten brown teal and I doubt if anyone has for at least fifty years. Whilst brown teal were hunted in big numbers in the 1800's hunting did not have any great influence on the species decline, and the species has been totally protected from hunting since 1921.
    Introduced predators - cats, mustelids, rats, hedgehogs - plus the Australasian Harrier, are the main reasons for the decline. But on top of this destruction of the species habitat has also had a significant impact.
    The Manual describes all this in detail, but it is definitely not a cook-book. :)
     
  5. Nosborne

    Nosborne New Member

    I remember that movie...the name of the aliens' book was "To Serve Man"...at the very end, just as the hero is getting into the transport to the aliens' planet, his beautiful blonde female assistant says..."It's a COOKBOOK!" Alas! Too late!

    What WAS the name of that film?

    Nosborne, JD
     
  6. MarkIsrael@aol.com

    [email protected] New Member

    "To Serve Man" was a Twilight Zone episode, adapted by Rod Serling from a short story by Damon Knight, and first broadcast 2 March 1962.
     
  7. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    I also remember that episode. I don't remember any ducks in it though. :)

    Have fun,
    Bill

    P.S. I think "desperately puerile" would be slightly more accurate.
     
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  8. kf5k

    kf5k member

    RJT- I don't believe you'll have much success in this war. Let those who doubt K-W believe what they will. The value of what you do is measured by what you honestly believe. I have two diplomas from Chadwick University, and could really care less the opinion of others. Chadwick's evaluation of credentials was less than it could have been. The course of study was also less demanding. The diplomas they provided was for a less demanding effort. If someone says that Chadwick is a diploma mill, they are mistaken. It is as I have said, less demanding. They are legal, state-authorized, have tests and issue grades, retain records,they've been in Alabama for 15 years or so. It has been stable in its location, not hopping around for the best location. It is not a process that could be accredited. I'm the customer and the student and I was and am satisfied. I believe you 'll have to be content in knowing you did study and earn the diploma you are pursuing. I've read what you posted and agree with most of it. I believe you deserve the diploma and have the right to use it as best you can.
    James
     
  9. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Chadwick is a degree mill according to RJT's criteria that it claims bogus accreditation. Mr. Hayes says Chadwick's not a degree mill because it doesn't hop around from state to state to avoid prosecution like K-W does.

    On the other hand, K-W is a degree mill according to Mr. Hayes' implied criteria that it hops from state to state to avoid prosecution. RJT argues that K-W is not a degree mill because it doesn't claim bogus accreditation.

    I love it! The state of denial can be a very amusing place.
     
  10. MarkIsrael@aol.com

    [email protected] New Member

    > 8. Doe the school currently clearly state that it is
    > unaccredited and state registered or CA state approved, or
    > does the school use a bogus accreditor - the worst violation.


    Bill stole my thunder as I was looking this up. I can't find any mention of "accreditation" on Chadwick's current Website, only "licensed and approved by the Alabama State Department of Education." But according to the Wayback Machine, Chadwick used the bogus accreditor, the World Association of Universities of Colleges, from at least January 1998 until May 2000.

    I don't think Bill meant to equate kf5k with fnhayes; probably just a slip on his part.
     
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  11. kf5k

    kf5k member

    I don't see any state of denial. I've said that Chadwick is not accredited. It is approved by Alabama. Chadwick is " Less Demanding".
     
  12. fnhayes

    fnhayes New Member

    Thanks Bill, but I know nothing about Chadwick and haven't
    made any comments.
    My expertise is NOT eating brown teal.:)
     
  13. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Sorry for confusing your name in there, Mr. Hayes.

    Mark Israel - thanks for reposting that delicious quote from RJT. I'm still giggling about the claim that bogus accreditation claims is the "worst violation". Of course you're correct about my booboo.

    Mr. kf5k (James IIRC but I'm not taking a chance on my tired memory), okay perhaps I got a bit overly excited by the irony of your post when coupled with RJT's previous outlandish statements. Your statements have been far more reasonable. I know nothing about Chadwick besides what is in Bear's guide. I have looked into K-W some and it has been called a degree mill by many respected organizations like the FBI and the Council on Higher Education. K-W is an atrocious joke, at least as an educational institution, perhaps not as a money making gold mine.
     
  14. Lajazz947

    Lajazz947 New Member

    To Gus

    You can insult my profession all you like, I don't give a damn. As in the practice of law, medicine, architecture, dentistry you name it, there are good and bad practicioners.

    Mandatory arbitration? I'll have you know that I oppose it. I don't work for one of the majors BECAUSE I do not agree with many of their practices so take your comments and gripes and post them on a Yahoo disgruntled investor group if you have issues with it.

    No, education is NOT a minor issue when it comes to hiring. I won't hire an MBA from HARVARD if he has nothing to offer but an RA degree. I'll choose the path of my education in any way shape or form that I CHOOSE, not that you choose for me.

    No comas mierda? Isn't THAT the pot calling the kettle black!!!

    I'm through with any further discourse with you.

    Rafael
     
  15. Gus Sainz

    Gus Sainz New Member

    Re: To Gus

    I didn’t insult your profession. I simply noted that an industry in which the norm is to resolve disputes and malfeasance through arbitration, rather than through the courts, tends to have a different view of liability.

    I am not a disgruntled investor (see above). My comments only concerned the fact that the liability posed by fraudulent degrees varies significantly by industry, and that an individual’s acceptance of these degrees can be affected by these different attitudes toward liability.

    No one is choosing anything for you. More than once you have publicly disclosed on this forum that you would pursue a fraudulent or substandard degree, and all but dared the members of this forum to disparage it. I simply pointed out that your proposed topic (which you also shared with us) appeared to be far too important to be sullied by a substandard degree.

    No, Rafael. Anyone who buys a degree from St. Regis fits the description of a comemierda. Being that you seem to be of above average intelligence and education there are only two logical explanations for your posts: You are either playing the role of a troll, or, mi amigo, estas comiendo mierda (isn’t that a wonderful Cuban phrase?)
     
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  16. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    I dunno, guys. This thread is sort of chasing its own teal, I mean tail, at this point. Oxpecker put it best elsewhere: OSKI WOW WOW etc., etc. Which rather represents the voice of the female brown teal, just as WHISKY WEE WEE represents that of the male (not according to Dr Hayes' book, but acc to the "Pateke the Brown Teal" link someone else posted).
     
  17. kf5k

    kf5k member

    I wonder if you can capture teal like you would the southern snipe. You go down in the woods with a sack, and I sneak up on the snipe and drive them to you. You may have to wait a bit, but I'll get them to you :)
     
  18. Dennis Ruhl

    Dennis Ruhl member

    The Hispanics have done their dining and KW is still issuing degrees not to everyones liking.

    This is a threat - If people don't quit posting on this worn out topic, I will post some irrelevant story from my past that is a guaranteed thread killer. You've been warned.
     
  19. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    Yeah. And I'll sic a whole mess of Carpathian wampires on it to suck out all its greyish-purple blood. Aux barricades, mes enfants! :p
     
  20. fnhayes

    fnhayes New Member

    Dennis,
    I'm sure we will all be waiting impatiently to read your 'thread killer'. But I don't believe that either K-W or brown teal are going to dissapear for a long time yet! :)
     

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