Ed.S. degree for business purposes

My guess is that I bet 10 pages.

 

I'll help you win, Tireman. I WANT you to!

I forgot to mention, the Cimarron may have been the first Cadillac that wasn't - at all. The second was the Cadillac Catera in 1996. The entire car was, in fact, a re-badged Opel Omega. At that time< Opel was owned by GM. They have since sold it. Since 2021, Opel has belonged to Stellantis, a multi-national automotive corporation.

There were many complaints about the Catera - although I must say I thought it was very nice-looking. I remember seeing quite a few complaints about extreme tire-wear, (hey, @Tireman44444) because the cars would simply not stay aligned. It seemed they were fine for the Autobahn, but not for North American highways.

Ah heck. I still like Cadillacs. Never owned one, though. When I was broke at 65 and starting to rebuild my money, I said I was going to save up enough for a Cadillac and then NOT BUY IT. The plan worked - even better than I expected.

I figure you are what you buy. @Rich Douglas knows a lot about degrees. And he holds 7 or 8 of them, at least. I know a fair bit about cars; I've owned eight of them - just one at a time. Guitars? Yeah, got 8 of them, right here at home. I know a fair bit and play a LOT. I'm not an expert - but I get around.... Now I'm trying to assemble a watch collection - timepieces fit for a Crime Boss. My kinda fun.

 

And fashion? Yeah, I bought a bunch of books, shelled out a few hundred $ for a course and more for a sewing machine. You are what you buy. Tomorrow I'm buying a book on Karl Lagerfeld....

 

Maybe we could find a Specialist to make that prediction.

 

If the Ed.S. is somewhere between a M.Ed. and an Ed.D., often with doctoral level courses involved, why didn’t schools adopt the M.Phil. for such course of studies?

 

Probably because comparatively few Universities in the US award the M. Phil., especially as a stand-alone degree, not in some connection with a doctoral program. You can find an explanation (and some exceptions) here - the US section is a very short read: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Master_of_Philosophy

 

Or maybe the Law Schools will invent the LL.S (degree or cert) in Education Law to cover it. Nice little money-maker. maybe... they could do a whole range of Law Specialist thingies... "Would you like a Specialist designation / certificate /degree with that Master's? - Yes, ma'am. Comin' right up."

 

Liberty has a JD/Ed.S dual degree for education law. There are also Ed.S. degree programs in Leadership and Policy that could be somewhat close. I’d LOVE to see one for Special Education Law. Working with compliance, there’s so much to know.

 

An Education Specialist in Special Education!

 

Liberty also has a few EdS programs in non-education fields of counseling. Similar to the EdD, there are EdS programs that have little to nothing to do with education. There are EdD programs for psychology that aren't in educational or school psychology. As we see with ACE, there's an EdS in areas that are not limited to education. Earlier in the thread, I noted EdS programs in clinical mental health counseling. Obviously, schools are free to use the EdD and EdS titles for non-education programs. Even if there were only EdS programs in various sub-fields of education, that wouldn't make it "not a degree." It would just be a degree type that other fields don't use.

By the way, I asked ChatGPT whether the EdS is a degree or certificate, and it said that it's a degree. ChatGPT isn't 100% accurate, but it did scour way more sources than any of us here, and it is a source people use (or misuse).

 

Since you brought up Liberty, I was rather surprised to see that they also have EdS programs in ... theology. That's definitely a new one on me.

https://www.liberty.edu/academics/postgraduate/