What's better: PhD from a .com school or a DBA from a B&M?

About 10 years ago, there were hardly any options to do a part time or DL PhD. I remember when we were all excited in this forum when NCU achieved RA. It was one of the first RA PhD that was quite affordable. Now the situation is different with better options available. There is no need to defend your degree, your resume has now plenty of teaching and professional experience so nobody is going to look at the degree so closely unless you want to apply for a tenure track position.

However, for new students, as there are many options no, it might be wiser to look for something better than NCU for the same money and effort.

No matter what you chose, the reality is that tenure track opportunities are becoming less available so it might get to a point when only people graduated from elite schools can make it.

The good news for those looking for non tenure track and adjunct positions, is that this type of positions are growing at exponential rates and PhDs from places like NCU would make the cut provided that you have good experience and excellent teaching evaluations.

 

I think "Acadmiaguy" raises some good points, I do not think it is just to comment about his user name, and/or if he/she misspelled a word incorrectly. I feel that this does not help add good feedback to the forum discussion especially from a Moderator.
With that said, while NCU is a good school, one that I considered myself, there are other options today. While there are still not too many RA schools that are offering a full online PH.D, I would tend to side with an Ed.D from a RA and B&M school, rather than a PhD from a full online university. In my career and speaking with scholars, it is still difficult to gain a full- time position in University based solely on an online university degree.

 

I think we have to differentiate between a full time and tenure track position. Capella, Walden, TUI, NCU, etc hire full time faculty and many have doctorates from an online schools. Most of these contracts are basically similar to adjunct contracts with the only difference that you are given some admin functions and guarantee a number of courses per year. Most of these contracts are year to year and pay similar to the equivalent of adjunct contracts (most pay from 50 to 70K).

I think that if your goal is to aim for a non tenure track, the PhD from an online school is acceptable as many schools only require a Master's for such appointments.

However, there is a huge difference in salaries and working conditions between an online full time professor at an online school and full tenure track faculty position at a AACSB accredited school. I would say that the latter make almost the double and work almost the half.

There is no free lunch, you want the tenure track at a AACSB accredited school with all the bennies and salary, you need to sit your butt for 5 to 7 years at a good B&M AACSB accredited school. If you are happy teaching on contractual basis with no tenure track, the online doctorate from an online school seems to work or at least has worked for many.

 

Very good point, I know when I was discussing the an online degree with a state school in my area (NJ), they said, they have never hired someone with an online PhD. Which then makes believe an Ed.D from a B&M may have more weight, for adjunct position and possibly full-time tenure then an online Ph.D.? I know there are a lot of critics of the Ed.D, however, in my opinion I feel that it is a very good degree depending mostly on the university that you attend i.e. Harvard, which doesn’t grant a PhD in education.
However, I will not say that it doesn't happen, but with my current experience speaking to full-time professors it is a difficult road to have a full-time position in a B&M with an online degree. I do not agree with this at all, however I’m just stating what I have learned.

 

Sloppy spelling should not be tolerated on a forum ostensibly dedicated to educational issues.

 

Yea poor spelling is the highlight of the forum? You do not know if the individual was at work etc. While I do agree, people should make sure they spell correctly; nevertheless, they should not be mocked by a Moderator. I’m pretty sure I seen somewhere on the forum stating that?

 

yea, dis might be used in acadamic reseach won day.

 

It would be very rare for a non-AACSB doctorate holder to earn a tenure track position at an AACSB school. But, there is a need for more business doctorates, especially as the baby boomer faculty move towards retirement. There's a great discussion of these issues at:

http://www.aacsb.edu/publications/archives/marapr09/24-31%20f-solving%20doc%20dilemma.pdf

IMHO, if an AACSB school worked out a program similar to the DPA at Valdosta, the program would be financially self supporting with a high number of candidates. I have to believe that some AACSB Business School Dean is looking at the sheer numbers of doctoral students at Capella, NCU, Walden, etc., and at least think about the revenue that would flow into the school...

 

lol .......

 

A sigh or a sign?

 

Disclaimer: I do not now have, nor have I ever had, anything to do with Bill and Ted's excellent academy.

 

Is that:
(A) "I'm pretty sure I have seen somewhere on the forum stating that" OR
(B) "I'm pretty sure I saw somewhere on the forum stating that" ?

 

You guys have way to much time on your hands. Ted where are your degree's from?

 

Per my sig line, the bachelor of arts in history and political science is from Western State College of Colorado and my two master of business administration are from City University of Seattle.

 

I find it interesting that a Monitor has such arrogant comments to other forum members. Last time I checked, Webster’s defined a Monitor as,” to watch, keep track of, or check usually for a special purpose.” (Monitor - Definition and More from the Free Merriam-Webster Dictionary) I do not see in this definition, criticize, ridicule, mock, or scorn another member. Do you see that in the above definition? Maybe you need to be reminded what a Monitor does?

 

Your are right, so lets look at what moderators are suppose to do; “The moderators (short singular form: "mod") are users (or employees) of the forum who are granted access to the posts and threads of all members for the purpose of moderating discussion (similar to arbitration) and also keeping the forum clean (neutralizing spam and spambots etc.). ("bulletin Community Forum - FAQ: What is a bulletin board?"). (Retrieved 2011-10-19. "A bulletin board is an online discussion site. It is sometimes also called a 'board' or 'forum'. It may contain several categories, consisting of sub-forums, threads and individual posts.")
The key word there is neutralizing.
The point is a Moderator should not talk to forum people in such a tone. Also, with you asking why don’t I go to other forums, the reason is because this is the first issue that I had with the moderator’s. All this started because I was sticking up for another forum member who was getting mocked by our wonderful MODERATORS.

 

While the moderators have a role, we are still people and human (some times super human :laugh: ). I have been short with people and a bit nasty but not as a "moderator" but as a "member".