Regional Accredited Degree in 4 Weeks

Re: Re: Reply to plcscott

Sorry, I can not give you a specific example that is verifiable by you. I could possibly dig up (from the attic) a course syllabus for one the three courses I tested out of that would show the format was the same as KWU. But, then you could claim they were forgeries. I do not think there is anything regarding that policy that could be accessed via the internet. Or, I could contact the other students who were in my cohort and took the test-outs with me. I could ask them to post confirmations. But why would you believe them either.

It has been my experience that universities have a great amount of lattitude in implementing policies, but they do not wish to make that flexibility public because then everyone would want the rules to be bent. Any rule or policy is meant for 99% of the situations encountered. There have been many instances of universities bending their rules as mentioned on this website (admission requirement waivers, probationary enrollments, transfer credit negotiations, etc.). For example, the evaluation of the content of transfer courses is sometimes a subjective process, open to interpretation by the evaluator. Even in public organizations the rules are sometimes a bit secrative to allow for exceptions to the rules. The university wants to accept enough transfer credit to motivate the student to enroll, but at the same time the university wants to minimize the amount of transfer credit in order to "sell" courses to the students. In a private business, like KWU, the administrative rules are bound to me more secrative and flexible (since they do not have to answer to an accreditor). I do not find that sinister or unusual. That is just business.
Jim

 

So, you tested out, or you had a course that was set up exactly like KWU? Testing out is a little different, I tested out of (credit by examination) courses before, but I have never taken a course that was just one open book final exam. Testing out is a way of proving prior knowledge. A course is supposed is to teach.

I did not expect you to prove anything that you claimed because you, me, or anyone else (including David Gering) that tries to make KWU out to be comparable to accredited schools can never go near specifics.

I agree that some rules may be bent in certain situations with legitimate schools, however, the substandard schools do not follow rules or standards. So, basically, KWU bends the rules for everyone. Everyone is GIVEN a liberal amount of credit for simply paying money for enrollment whether their experience relates to a degree or not.

That sums it up well. KWU is a business. A business that preys on those that are ignorant with regards to accreditation or standards associated with legitimate schools, yet KWU masquerades as a "university" and awards academic degrees.

 

First, ALL education is a business and even state schools provide an education for money. Just because they are non-profit does not mean they don't need the funds. They do.

Second, if some rules are going to be bent at RAs for some students, it seems much more egalitarian to bend the rules for everyone as you say KW does. Why should some benefit and others not benefit from a relaxation of a few arbitrary rules?

KW has a different business plan to provide higher education for working adults but that by itself is not a prima facie case of being a diploma mill.

 

You are right, KWU and all the universities (Accredited or not), are just a gigantic business.


"Educational institutions have no inherent or constitutional right to confer degrees; rather, degree conferral is business conduct, a corporate privilege conferred by the state of incorporation."

(483 A.2d 1172)

 

The Difference

If I had to decide between seeking a degree accredited by an agency approved by the CHEA and one approved by Russ and Dr. Latin Juris, I would choose the CHEA. Evidence, both statistical and anecdotal, indicates that I would never regret that decision.

 

Well said!

Excellent summary of summaries!

... and a big "Welcome!" to you, Robb.

Thanks.

 

Re: The Difference

Sorry, I do not approve schools of higher education nor have I offered to. I don't know what in the world you are talking about.

 

Do you have any evidence that the faculty actually grades the assignments?

 

KWU graduates have said that they got comments back on their "term paper". I don't recall anyone giving any details on how deep the review or comments were though. I seem to recall someone saying that the KWU faculty were paid a fixed amount for the whole paper, which would seem to encourage some to provide minimal comments.

 

Speaking of KWE ........

Has anyone else heard the rumor that has started circulating?

"What is it? What is it?" - you ask?

Ok, here it is ......

Any truth to the rumor (and one may allege that I may be helping to spread such unfounded "rumors" merely by repeating it) that come 2006, the state of Wyoming, still stinging from severe worldwide embarassment as being designated and known as the current leader of US diploma mill licensing states - will probably not extend KWE's license to continue to operate in that state?

The state's website boldly states that KWE is "Licensed/Not Accredited," as in the following:

Source:
http://www.k12.wy.us/ao/f/programs/psl/degree.html

"KENNEDY-WESTERN UNIVERSITY
"Licensed/not accredited by the state
"License valid until June 30, 2006

Administrative Headquarters
30301 Agoura Road
Agoura Hills, CA 91301

In-State
200 W. 17th Street
Cheyenne, WY 82001
(307) 638-6114
Toll Free: (800) 635-2900
Fax: (307) 638-6228

Distance Learning
Website: www.kw.edu
Contact: Carol Pacheco

 

Re: Reply to Jake_A

Do you mean UMd. or do you mean UMUC?

 

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