Yet Another Liar....

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  1. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Yet another lying CEO at: Chairman Resigns Post Over Padded Résumé

    He had to resign the chairmanship of MCG Capital Corporation and pay back last year's bonus (and forfeit this year's bonus as well). But he keeps his job as CEO. So now this company, that buys and lends money, keeps a liar in charge. Gee, maybe I can hand them my 401k to manage....:rolleyes:
     
  2. Homer

    Homer New Member

    .....So now this company, that buys and lends money, keeps a liar in charge.....

    Perhaps even worse is the fact that the guy, apparently, has no degree even though he attended college for a total of =5= years. Sheesh!!
     
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  3. Gary Rients

    Gary Rients New Member

    Re: Re: Yet Another Liar....

    I fell into that category myself for quite some time (attended college for 5 years without completing a degree), and I'm pretty sure that I'm not the only one on this board who has been in that situation. You're saying that's somehow worse than lying about having earned a degree. Yeah, not getting a degree is worse than engaging in unethical behavior. Huh. That seems like a pretty unique perspective - how about enlightening us all with the reasoning behind your wisdom? Or perhaps you should just think a little before you post...

    Back to Rich's topic: Anyone who blatantly lies about their background should be summarily dismissed from any position, let alone that of CEO. Ethics evidently aren't a high priority for this company.
     
  4. Myoptimism

    Myoptimism New Member

    (from article)

    Hmmm...
    That worked out well.

    Tony
     
  5. drwetsch

    drwetsch New Member

    It looks like this Chairman is paying his penance.

    John
     
  6. Homer

    Homer New Member

    Golly, what an interesting response.

    Sorry I struck a nerve but wasn't it YOU that was concerned (I think obssessed is more accurate) about whether the Kelley Online MBA diploma indicated the degree was conferred by the Bloomington or Indianapolis campus? Further, wasn't it YOU who questioned the effect the mere name of a school (City University, I believe) would have on an potential employer? Personally, I find it fascinating that one who would be so concerned with such trivia would attach such little significance to the fact that a person could not obtain a B.A. in economics after 5 years of full-time study.
     
  7. Gary Rients

    Gary Rients New Member

    Re: Re: Yet Another Liar....

    So? If you have a point in there somewhere, I sure can't find it; the other topics you mention don't appear to have any relevance to this one. I see no need to rehash those threads, and if you're interested in them then feel free to just post to them. However, you do seem to be easily fascinated.

    If someone were to pursue the same undergraduate degree full-time for 5 years without completing it, then I would probably consider that odd, depending of course upon the explanation, but I haven't seen any evidence to indicate that is the case here (certainly not in the linked article), and that qualification was not present in your statement. Even if that were the situation, how exactly would it be worse than falsely claiming to have completed a degree? That would seem to be the position of someone who values academic achievement over ethical behavior. You are evidently standing by your assertion, so how about an explanation? All you've offered is a nonsensical attack(?) of my position on other topics. Either support yourself or back down. On the other hand, if it just came out wrong, or if I misinterpreted you, then just say so.
     
  8. John Bear

    John Bear Senior Member

    ACT report (http://www.act.org/news/releases/2001/04-26-01.html):

    "The percentage [of full-time students] earning a bachelor's degree within five years continues to slip and is now at 51.2, four-tenths of a percent below the figure reported last year."

    Thus: Percentage of fulltime students who do not earn a Bachelor's degree after five years: 48.8%

    Another major report I recently read reported that the average time for a full-time student to complete a "four year" degree is just over 6 years.
     
  9. Homer

    Homer New Member

    Okay, how about this:

    1) You are correct; falsely claiming to have completed a degree is, indeed, "worse" than pursuing an undergraduate degree full-time for 5 years without completing it.

    2) Obtaining a B.A. in economics shouldn't take a person of reasonable intelligence more than 4 years (full-time) to complete absent exigent circumstances (work-related considerations, familial responsibilities, personal problems, changing course of study, et al).

    3) The guy who is the subject of this thread =should= have completed his degree in 4 years (absent exigent circumstances) considering the position he currently holds and has held for several years.

    4) Although there are legitimate reasons for not completing an undergraduate degree in 4 years, I think it is somewhat unreasonable for anyone not able to complete said degree in said time frame (again, absent exigent circumstances) to cast aspersions on the character or quality of a particular graduate program and/or institution.
     

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