Xavier University School of Medicine (XUSOM), Bonaire

Discussion in 'Nursing and medical-related degrees' started by Emrah, May 12, 2010.

  1. Emrah

    Emrah member

    Is this school real ? Is it a diploma mill ? Any help will be appreciated. Thanks anyway. Xavier University

    TEKMAN Semper Fi!

  3. Emrah

    Emrah member

    So is it a legitimate degree ? It offers online phd ? That's why i'm asking...

    TEKMAN Semper Fi!

    No, I don't think it is legit! I don't see any organization accredited their degrees
  5. Emrah

    Emrah member

    Thanks for the help.
  6. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Attention Americans: just because a school isn't affiliated with one in your country doesn't automatically make it a mill.

    Xavier University School of Medicine in Bonaire is one of a growing number of medical schools in the Caribbean whose graduates may sit the U.S. Medical Licensing Exams and if they pass can practice medicine in the U.S. As Caribbean medical schools go this one is not as well known as Ross or St. George's, and it doesn't have their sort of track record and honestly wouldn't be my first choice, but that doesn't mean it's a mill.

  7. Delta

    Delta Active Member

    Facts vs. Speculation

    According to my research,

    Xavier University main campus and medical school is located on the Netherlands Antilles in the Caribbean and was founded in 2003.

    Xavier University School of Medicine, XUSOM, Caribbean Medical School

    See the Foundation for Advancement of International Medical Education and Research. The IMED directory lists schools that students are eligible for United States Medical Licensure Examinations.
    Link: https://imed.faimer.org/details.asp?country=&school=xavier&currpage=1&cname=&city=&region=&rname=&mcode=665050&psize=25

    In addition, it is listed in the University of Copenhagen's database of World Health Organization listed Medical Schools. Go to database, country then Netherlands Antilles.

    Link: AVICENNA Directory Medicine – University of Copenhagen

    However, I do not see it listed in the United Nations link to International Association of Universities database (May or may not hold much weight in making a determination):

    List of Universities of the World

    Finally, I do not see it mentioned in the Oregon State Diploma Mill website:
    Office of Degree Authorization

    Armed with these facts and not speculation, I hope you can make a more informed decision. What doctoral program are you interested in?
  8. Delta

    Delta Active Member

    Do you mean Americans from the United States of America? North America, Central America or South America? Are Caribes American? :D
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  9. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Heh, all I know is that if you walk around Dominica asking people whether they're American, they'll say "No!" :)

  10. Delta

    Delta Active Member

    I lived in PR many years ago, sure miss the place! I have a friend who went to Ross in Dominica which is now ironically a school owned by an "American" accredited school (Devry).
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  11. Emrah

    Emrah member

    What about Open University of Malaysia ? Is it a legitimate degree? and there is one more Asia E University ???
  12. BillDayson

    BillDayson New Member

    It appears that some governments try to lure medical schools to their shores just as they try to lure other businesses. They look at it as economic development. In particular, they promise entrepeneurs that new schools will be approved and that their names will be dutifully forwarded to the World Health Organization in Geneva before the entrepeneur even agrees to locate his school on their territory and before the school even begins operation.

    The WHO in turn lists all the schools that have been officially recommended by a government regardless of whether that recognition had any academic conditions. Many US states in turn use the WHO listing when deciding what kind of foreign education qualifies for medical licensing.

    So that's turned into quite a loophole and scores of ostensible medical schools dot the Caribbean, most of them proprietorships run by small American entrepeneurs and serving US students who couldn't get into domestic medical schools.

    My impression is that these off-shore medical schools range from a handful of reasonably credible ones like St. George's to an unknown number of flat-out mills. The stardards that each one may or may not have been required to meet are opaque and unknown. What is known is that few of these things resemble medical schools that would be accredited by the AMA here in the states. Facilities are typically minimal and faculties iffy.
  13. Delta

    Delta Active Member

    Your questions are starting to reflect a degree of laziness on your part in doing your own due diligence and drawing conclusions. Although there should be, there is no Global database on "diploma mills".
  14. Ian Anderson

    Ian Anderson Active Member

    Yes it is.
  15. Emrah

    Emrah member

    I just asked whether these schools are legitimate or not. Because i will start my phd soon so i dont want to waste my time and money for nothing. I dont have money such 40000 $ to give american schools. Thanks for your kind help Ian.
  16. Delta

    Delta Active Member

    The point I would like to drive for the original poster (OP) is that just because someone on this forum says yes it is or no it isn't, doesn't hold water unless you have references and sources to back that statement.

    The only consensus on this forum is that diploma mill = not "legitimate". Fine! What may be legitimate in Timbuktu may very well be bogus and unaccepted in another part of the world.
  17. Delta

    Delta Active Member

    You are going to be a PhD one day and an expert in research and evidenced based science and the answer to your query of where you got your degree is "a guy named Delta from Degreeinfo.com told me it was legitimate".
  18. Emrah

    Emrah member

    Delta sorry but what is your problem ? If you want to help just help otherwise dont. I read thousands of topics in degreeinfo. I decide just not for one it is legitimate word but taking into consideration all of my research ;)
  19. Delta

    Delta Active Member

    I thought I was very helpful but I guess it was not want you wanted to hear/ or read. Oh well!:rolleyes:
  20. Emrah

    Emrah member

    If you can tell me your opinion about open university of malaysia i'll appreciate that. Thanks anyway for your help. But you should know i just want help that's all.

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