This forum has generally been very supportive of CCU before and after accreditation. The only negatives I recall being pointed out in this forum regarding CCU was their substandard DBA program and the simple fact that they were unaccredited which significantly hurt the utility of all their degrees. Oh yea, and that they were listed by the ODA as unaccceptable. It turns out that they were evaluated as unacceptable in Oregon by the ODA based on a request from an Oregonian to have their CCU DBA evaluated by the ODA. CCU dropped their DBA for accreditation but I understand did not require very significant other changes. Bob Jones University is academically rigorous but a bad place to go to school for other reasons, at least in my opinion. What other habitually unaccredited schools have become accredited that you would like an opinion on? In my opinion it is a gross insult to CCU's reputation to place them in the same category as KWU. CCU was academically rigorous before applying for accreditation. KWU was playing diploma mill like games with life experience, admittance committee stories, and not listing graduation requirements right up to the point that they applied for accreditation.