Wrexham Glyndwr University Masters programs

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  1. nyvrem

    nyvrem Member

    https://online.glyndwr.ac.uk/online-programs/

    Well, guess you don't need a bachlor's degree to enter.
     
  2. Neuhaus

    Neuhaus Well-Known Member

    Unfortunately, having a Masters without a bachelors would break the brains of almost every US based employer (to say nothing of HRIS algorithms). It's a shame. It's actually, in my opinion, the way it should be anyway. A bachelors, typically, shows a breadth of study. You study a little bit of everything and may focus some of that everything in one or two areas. The Masters is just that, you mastering that subject.

    There are plenty of shop engineers who never earned bachelors degrees who, in my estimation, could excel in an M.Eng. program. And I think that would accurately capture their focused area of expertise.

    But alas, in this country we are more into the idea of degree hierarchy than the degrees meaning anything.

    Still, looks like an interesting option in general but if you go in without a bachelors degree YMMV.
     
  3. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

    Wow! Seven different MBA programs. That's so great because we really don't have enough online MBA programs. Any idea of the costs?
     
  4. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

    Mmmm. I really don't want to come aross as totally negative about this. I'm just tired of MBA programs. Clearly they are offering some good concentrations as well as the CS/IT programs. I would also point out that Wales has a bunch of other universities that offer DL/online degrees. Trinity St. David is my favorite bit there's Cardiff, Swansea, Aberystwyth, Bangor, etc. The cost is not bad and they've got some stuff that hard to find elsewhere.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_universities_in_Wales
     
  5. Pappas

    Pappas Member

  6. nyvrem

    nyvrem Member

    uhh, what about those who've done those 4/5 year M.Eng programs from the UK? They won't have a bachelors. They'll graduate with a direct masters.

    Will they have issues with HR in the US too?
     
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  7. nyvrem

    nyvrem Member

    6000 pounds ~ which is about.. 7.7k ish USD ? There abouts.
     
  8. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

    I don't track costs too closely but I believe that's an extremely competitive price
     
  9. msganti

    msganti Member

    They hvae some good IT/CS course and the pricing seems good. I am not familiar with UK accreditation system. Is this school accredited as per UK system?
     
  10. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Active Member

    That's affordable. The University of Portsmouth used to be very affordable for many years until they made a huge increase from £2, 100 per year to £3, 650 per year.
     
  11. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

    I sprinted through the site and it appears that this school is a part of the larger University of Wales system.
     
  12. heirophant

    heirophant Well-Known Member

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  13. Pappas

    Pappas Member

    Yep, it operates just fine....
    Just keep in mind the link I have already posted ;)
     
  14. Pappas

    Pappas Member

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  15. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

    It was there when I looked
     
  16. LearningAddict

    LearningAddict Well-Known Member

    Companies that use these filtering systems will present a challenge in this situation, but it is generalizing. Not every company operates the same way, and people with a Masters only from other parts of the world do secure jobs here in the United States.
     
  17. Neuhaus

    Neuhaus Well-Known Member

    Yes.

    In the US, 4/5 programs (there are a few) award both a bachelors and a masters. It is generally not a part of US degree culture to have a Masters without a bachelors.

    HR software is built around this concept. HR professionals and most hiring managers are conditioned that this is the normal course of events. Licensing bodies, too, look for that sequence.

    Now, is it insurmountable? Of course not. Licensing bodies typically have appeal processes just to look at exceptional cases like the one you're describing. If a highly qualified engineer gets caught up in one company's red tape, another may well gobble them right up. It's a big country.

    But let's not act like this is a common enough problem in the U.S. to encourage any change in thought or process. Since around 2005ish, I have handled hundreds of applicants with foreign credentials. Want to know how many I've had from the UK? Two. Just two. First was a guy with a degree in engineering or some very closely aligned field and his degree happened to be from a UK university that was also RA so we didn't even do an evaluation. The second was a woman with a Scottish M.A. and no undergrad which we effectively treated as a bachelors degree and had to force some fields in the H.R.I.S. to override some triggers since she did not possess the minimum qualifications, on paper, for her own job.

    Yes, these things cause issues. A candidate showing up with a pre-Bologna Italian Laurea would also break stuff. This shouldn't be surprising.
     
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