Who will win Veep debate?

Discussion in 'Political Discussions' started by Guest, Oct 1, 2004.


Who will win Veep debate?

  1. Edwards

    11 vote(s)
  2. Cheney

    10 vote(s)
  3. Tie

    2 vote(s)
  4. Don't care one way or the other

    2 vote(s)
  1. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Who do you think will win the Veep debate Tuesday evening?
  2. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Edwards is smart, articulate, and has that trial lawyer finesse. He doesn't however, seem to have a clear grasp of the issues.

    Cheney is smart, articulate, and has a clear grasp of the issues. It should be a very good exchange and I give the edge to Cheney.
  3. Mr. Engineer

    Mr. Engineer member

    Edwards, Because

    1. Cheney was never a good speaker

    2. Cheney has lots of skeletons in his closet (draft dodger, Halliburton, previous shady deals while in Congress, etc).

    3. Cheney just doesn't come off like a sincere nice guy. He comes off like a arrogant pompus ass. At least GW comes off like a personable guy (even if he is not)
  4. Guest

    Guest Guest

    It's interesting how Democrats and/or leftists condemn Cheney's lack of military service but give Clinton a pass. A draft dodger is a draft dodger is a draft dodger regardless of party affiliation or political views.

    Now, Edwards speaks of health care in America and yet, as a trial lawyer, earned $39 million dollars suing doctors and running them out of North Carolina. Now that's a real proponent for health care in America. :rolleyes:
  5. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    The slick-talking, rather feminine, ambulance-chasing attorney (Edwards) is in for the shock of his life when he goes up against Dick Cheney.

    Edwards will quickly learn that he can't make objections like he did in the court room.

    More than anything, I'm looking forward to the VP debate.
  6. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    I saw a clip of an Edwards speech where he said something like (going from memory) "And I bet you're tired of escalating health insurance premiums".

    I actually laughed out loud. Edwards has probably sued hundreds of physicians in his home state, but he tries to make health care costs a campaign issue? Is he serious??? :rolleyes:
  7. Mr. Engineer

    Mr. Engineer member


    That is odd Mr. Clifton - I seem to remember 8 years of constant criticism and constant investigations. All except a civil perjury charge were proven to be false.

    GW ought to count his lucky stars that he doesn't have to endure the wrath of the Neo cons and especially the Heritage Foundation. If the libs and Demo's had the same machine, GW and crew would be facing some quite unfriendly investigations into their shady dealings.
  8. Guest

    Guest Guest

    What does this have to do with his being a draft dodger? I am not talking about his actual and alleged sexual misdeeds.

    Now you call me "Mr. Clifton." As your favorite Republican I thought we were better friends than that. :)
  9. Guest

    Guest Guest

    I posted earlier I give the edge to Cheney. After reading your post and thinking more about it, I think Cheney will wipe the floor with Edwards.

    My earlier post was based on the Cheney-Lieberman debate that was rather boring and dull with neither one shining.

    I am still upset with the horrible treatment the Democratic Party has shown Lieberman. Too bad he doesn't join the GOP.
  10. Mr. Engineer

    Mr. Engineer member

    Many apologies Jimmy. Would you prefer me to call you Jimmy instead? You can call me Walt. No one calls me Mr. (except the bum - err homeless - hitting me up for money)

    Liberman is a first class bore and a whiney little man. (JMHO). Cheney is not as boring, but is a poor public speaker. Edwards is a much better speaker and has good command presence. This is not to say that Cheney is not an intelligent man, I do beleive he is very intelligent. Just not very interesting to hear as his message always seems on the vindictive side.

    As far as Clinton - who cares? He is gone. He will never be an issue again even if Hilary gets elected into the Whitehouse in 2008. Of course he dodged an unpopular war - no one, even Clinton has ever denied that. However, Cheney and his gang of merry men are here with us now - and most of them pulled the same crap Clinton pulled.
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  11. BLD

    BLD New Member

    If I have to see Edwards with that noxious "thumbs up" gesture one more time I think I'll puke. If the Dems think Edwards has even a slight chance against Cheney they might want to think again.
  12. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Hey Walt,

    Walter is my middle name, ha! You're right. Who cares now? Actually you and I agree on one thing regarding this issue. It was an unpopular war and I don't blame anyone for not wanting to go.

    The problem I had with Clinton is that he did dodge the draft yet he sent troops into harms way when he wouldn't go himself. Sure the same thing could be said for Bush. If America hadn't been attacked I would not support his sending our troops into harm's way.

    On the other hand, what one does or believes in young adulthood doesn't always extrapolate into one's later adult life.

    Once one is Commander-in-Chief and the weight of the nation is on his or her (Condie not Hillary, ha!) shoulders, perspectives and convictions change rather quickly, I believe.
  13. Cheney is clever, but unstable. He has a tendency to come apart under pressure. Hopefully Edwards will apply such pressure in his artful use of the process of debate to help Cheney reveal quite publically his tendency to blow up and fly off the handle at the slightest provocation.

    I give the edge to Edwards, because I think he will remain quite calm under pressure.

    Time will tell, and not much time at that - Tuesday is near.
  14. Tom57

    Tom57 Member

    Rather feminine?

    If you look at Edwards' trial record, you'll see that he almost always took on cases of extreme negligence. He was not chasing ambulances.

    If you get your arm ripped off by a machine at the local factory, and it's clearly a case of negligence by the employer, then chances are you do want an attorney to take up your case.

    Cheney is the prototypical Bush family crony. He seems to think the purpose of government is to make him personally wealthy. Damn anyone that stands in his way. He's part of the Bush oil cartel. Like Condy Rice, I expect he'll have an oil tanker named after him soon.
  15. Guest

    Guest Guest

    I don't think Bush, Cheney, Kerry, or Edwards have to worry about from where their next meal comes!

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