Which online School has better accreditation for Computer Science

Discussion in 'Accreditation Discussions (RA, DETC, state approva' started by vexatious, Apr 25, 2012.

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  1. vexatious

    vexatious New Member

    Currently attending Everest and have 28 credits (will have 40 by the end of this spring term). I'm enrolled in their computer information science program majoring in network security.

    I thought I should transfer to Strayer University and enroll in their Bachelor's Degree program for Computer Science majoring in web development. It seems like a much better college than Everest, but I read that some of their programs are either not accredited or don't have good accreditation; Strayer University though, is regarded as regionally accredited as opposed to Everest's more proprietary national accreditation.

    I'd like to know which online college is better for an undergraduate degree in Computer Science (and possibly going for a graduate degree). Everest or Strayer?
     
  2. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator Staff Member

    All other things being roughly equal, I always recommend an RA program over an NA program. Most RA programs are more expensive than NA programs, but if you plan to go on to graduate school, the cost difference will be worth it, as an RA degree won't limit your options.
     
  3. rebel100

    rebel100 New Member

    Agree with Bruce, and would add that a non profit State school would be a much better value (as a rule) than a for profit college. Strayer, in particular, is deliriously expensive for what you are getting. There are many choices that are better for what you are doing IMO.

    Your local CC for a start, the local University, the big three, any State school with a fair price and a solid distance learning option ... plenty of choices.
     
  4. jam937

    jam937 New Member

    They both are regionally accredited, but Everest was on probation from May 2009 until November 2011.
    http://www.ncahlc.org/download/_PublicDisclosureNotices/PDN_2085.pdf

    That aside, I would run away from any school that doesn't post their tuition and fees online as your about to get screwed. This includes Everest and Phoenix. They're trying to get you not to worry about it while they load up on student loans on your behalf.

    Strayer posts their tuition and fees online. They are $1,725 per 3 semester (4.5 quarter) hour undergrad class
    http://www.strayer.edu/financial-support/tuition-and-fees
     
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  5. jam937

    jam937 New Member

    What do you pay per course at Everest? I consider Strayer is very expensive and I believe Phoenix is more than Strayer. I am enrolled in the Computer Science program at Thomas Edison.
     
  6. rebel100

    rebel100 New Member

    Strayer just blows my mind. What you might spend there for a semester could pay for 4 years at some schools. It's just crazy money!

    That said, I have a buddy who did a nursing bridge (paramedic to RN) at Herzing and wound up with student loans totaling $41,000! I had to ask him to specify how many zero's because I didn't believe what he was saying. He could have accomplished the same thing, with arguably a better name, at the CC for about $4K. I really have trouble wrapping my head around this sort of chosen indenture.
     
  7. TEKMAN

    TEKMAN Semper Fi!

    Oregon State University's BS in Computer Science. If you need the knowledge without a degree, this guy can teach you better than Strayer. TheNewBoston - Free Educational Video Tutorials on Computer Programming, Adobe Software, Computer Science and More!
     
  8. dl_mba

    dl_mba Member

    I would suggest looking at the Local Public Universities offering online courses/programs.
    Another good school is Capitol College (B&M and ABET accredited with Online option). and they do make Tuition public with a Tuition Lock option..

    Tuition & Fees | Capitol College

    Tuition Lock | Capitol College
     
  9. Petedude

    Petedude New Member

    As you already guessed, some people just get suckered in-- slick advertising or whatnot.

    For those who didn't get suckered in, maybe there was something the program offered that they couldn't find elsewhere? In the case of Everest or Phoenix, it may be the convenience of night/weekend classes at nearby campuses, or job placement, or something. In the case of Strayer, maybe it was something unique in the program they couldn't find elsewhere, or they got a fair number of transfer credits from a prior school.

    Sometimes it seems feasible to spend more on a given program because it fits certain needs-- NCU is a case in point. There are far less expensive RA/ACBSP programs, but NCU is highly self-paced and is not tied to traditional academic calendars (which seem to me to make less and less sense all the time in today's world anyway).

    Not defending Everest, Phoenix or Strayer, and have not attended these. Just stating the student may have had other reasons for choosing them.
     
  10. rebel100

    rebel100 New Member

    I understand this, But I would love to hear someone actually articulate it this way...if you've reasoned it out and are happy with it it's no issue for me...but I have really never heard of anyone (except maybe ryoder) actually think it through this way. There isn't much these for profit's provide that isn't available easier and cheaper, usually with a better reputation, elsewhere.
     
  11. GeeBee

    GeeBee Member

    University of Illinois Springfield offers bachelors and masters programs for computer science that can be completed entirely online. And they guarantee your tuition won't increase if you can finish the program in no more than five years.

    Department of Computer Science
     
  12. vexatious

    vexatious New Member

    Thanks GeeBee! I researched local colleges in my state but none seem to offer computer science programs that are purely online. I decided to stick with Everest for now; tuition seems to be on the cheaper side compared to other online colleges like strayer, ASU, and others, and so far I feel very good about what I'm doing. Not only that, but strayer doesn't seem accredited for their computer science programs but Everest is nationally accredited for theirs. People seem to say national accreditation isn't as good as regional, but I don't think it's a big deal (especially in computer science); I've heard other Everest graduates successfully transferring to Oklahoma university with their credits from Everest. I heard computer certification is better too but you'll never know! At least online learning shows computers aren't an issue for you!
     
  13. TEKMAN

    TEKMAN Semper Fi!

    All I want to say is GOOD LUCK!
     
  14. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    I think its going in importance to have an ABEt accredited CS degree.
    It can if one is interested be recognized under Washingthon Accord.

    I know couple of people who had CS degrees and got registered as Chartered Engineers with EC UK.

    Also for Mobility overseas its better to have RA, ABET.
    One never knows and in the future ABET accreditation may become more demanded.
    Also if you want to lets say go from BS in CS to MS in Eng you will have better transfer to Engineering program that is ABET accredited even if the accreditinc group with in ABET is different.
     
  15. CalDog

    CalDog New Member

    The Washington Accord only applies to engineering degrees, which have ABET-EAC accreditation. It doesn't apply to computer science degrees (although it does apply to certain ABET-EAC accredited "computer engineering" or "computer science & engineering" degrees).

    Computer science degrees typically have ABET-CAC accreditation, which falls under the Seoul Accord. I agree that ABET-CAC accreditation could be helpful if you plan to work in other countries; currently the Seoul Accord includes Australia, Canada, Taiwan, Hong Kong, Japan, Korea, the United Kingdom, and the United States.

    However, ABET-CAC accreditation for CS degrees is not equivalent to ABET-EAC accreditation for engineering degrees, and it is not eligible for recognition under the Washington Accord. The Washington Accord covers the same countries as the Seoul Accord, plus Ireland, Malaysia, New Zealand, Singapore, South Africa, and Turkey,
     
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  16. Intlprof

    Intlprof New Member

    Not exactly CS

    However I am getting good mileage out of an NCU PhD (BA) ECommerce. I received a raise, and have a niche position of sorts teaching.

    As mentioned, NCU is RA and ACBSP. I wish I could have gone AACSB, but that's hard to come by in the online package and with not so many constraints. When I started, there were fewer other school options, NCU was more flexible, reasonably priced, and probably the only thing that could have worked for me given mobility and tumultuous-ness of my life at the time.

    I have had good luck with the ACBSP folks during this time, and found I was not shunned by A top tier AACSB either, when I was picked for their research awards and a residency.
     

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