Which Doctoral Program Do You Prefer?

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Which Doctoral Program Do You Prefer?

  1. Argosy University

    5 vote(s)
    4.5%
  2. Capella University

    14 vote(s)
    12.5%
  3. Fielding Institute

    9 vote(s)
    8.0%
  4. Northcentral University (seeking RA status)

    23 vote(s)
    20.5%
  5. Nova Southeastern University

    18 vote(s)
    16.1%
  6. Saybrook Graduate School

    6 vote(s)
    5.4%
  7. Touro University

    24 vote(s)
    21.4%
  8. Union Institute & University

    11 vote(s)
    9.8%
  9. Walden University

    2 vote(s)
    1.8%
  1. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    How can you explain that over half of the applicants were rejected? :eek: :confused: ;)
     
  2. Vinipink

    Vinipink Accounting Monster

    Re: Additional choices?


    NCU keep changing a lot, I was told that when I summited my application for evaluation the credit was $250 and the $300, according to them I fall in the $300 per unit which is cheap compare to other above. Well when I crunch my numbers I was going to pay about $1200 per class in contrast new catalog is $1,125, that is $75 less that old catalog.

    Now the different is that under the new catalog is whole program is about almost $4,000 more that the other and more classes. I have asked how would these be apply to me since they told me I wont get claw with the new credits rates until the next tuition increase which will may happen according to them in about two years, because they want to stay competitive.

    I am waiting to see what they would do with me, and how this dilema wil be resolved since I fall in the old program if a decide to go with them. Also reference if you wanted to pay in advance to lock the rate, they will elimated this option.

    The only way the may get students, if by providing better finacing options or student loans such a the above Universities. That is just me. I see Tauro as good option for me but the only thing is that their PhD is to general if I would be already there.
     
  3. Andy Borchers

    Andy Borchers New Member

    Sulla - I don't doubt that Peterson's reports this statistic (48%), but I'd be careful before drawing any conclusions:

    1. Is this for the total institution? Or is it just undergrad?

    2. "Admission accept" percentages have a reputation for being a manipulated statistic at many schools (DL and traditional). The number of students admitted isn't in question, but how many applied? Some schools choose to look selective by counting every person who submitted an application - including those that never submitted transcripts, paid an admission fee, etc. Hence, the percentage that weren't admitted - weren't admitted because they chose not to complete their application, not because the school wouldn't admit them. This problem has become worse with the advent of web applications. While many schools find web applications soaring - the percentage of these applications that are followed up with action is much lower than with paper applications.

    Regards - Andy

     
  4. GENO

    GENO New Member

    My heavens, the first thing NCU does after receiving accreditation is to increase their tuition rates. Does that say anything? They could have waited a few months - although now if they have a mad rush of enrollment they can cash in handsomely.
     
  5. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    Still Waffling

    I'm still waffling about the pursuit of a doctoral degree. Certain things have happened in my job that have prompted me to decide to "make money" instead of pursuing a doctorate.

    Interestingly, everyone that I have spoken with has advised against pursuing a doctoral degree. If everyone is advising against it, then there must be some merit to their advice.

    So, after the Masters degree is complete, I am going to launch a financial endevor instead of continuing further studies.

    To those of you who choose to pursue a doctorate, God bless and may the force be with you. :)
     
  6. Dennis Ruhl

    Dennis Ruhl member

    Re: Still Waffling


    Did you ever think that you might be the only optimist in your own world of pessimists.

    A doctorate would be for you and no-one else.

    Financial endeavor - don't you know the money runs out long before the bills are paid.

    Money - don't you guys work on commission?:D
     
  7. Ike

    Ike New Member

    Re: Still Waffling

    Good luck to you.
     
  8. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    Even my mother tried to talk me out of pursuing a doctorate. :rolleyes:

    I'm being hit by negatives every which way I ask. Then my aunt, a retired school principle, sarcastically said, "A doctorate will look good on your tombstone." :rolleyes:

    Sheesh. :rolleyes:

    But you're right: The pursuit of a doctoral degree must come from within. ;) :D

    There is nothing wrong with obtaining a degree purely for personal enrichment. That's why I pursued a Masters degree!!! :D
     
  9. oxpecker

    oxpecker New Member

    Also in your obituary. That's enough to make it worthwhile.
     
  10. Vinipink

    Vinipink Accounting Monster

    Re: Still Waffling


    If you are looking for approval for something that you want then do not look anymore, since your peers already selected for you. Now is this is something you want, you will follow your heart, if I would have listen to all people that told me not to go to college. I would be a security guard today. While my profession does not require Doctoral studies I feel the need to grow Academically since my financial growth has been as slow as the increase for the cost of living, so you see I stay the same. It will be a matter of time that you will realized that you should go with what you want not what other want. People do not like to see you grow in any way. And trust the same will follow in your finacial endevor as well, disapproval that is.

    Which you best of luck!
     
  11. GENO

    GENO New Member

    Still Waffling

    If you still harbor doubts about pursuing a doctoral degree it may be advantageous to at least apply and taste a course or two.

    I experienced the same situation a few years ago. I applied to Walden's Ph.D. program and was accepted, and was eager to "just do it" until the first semester tuition bill arrived - sticker shock sat it quickly ($3600+). Put it off for nearly a year. Tried Northcentral in AZ. Tried a course then again, never finished it,reality sat in - do I want a degree from a place called Northcentral University? RA or no RA - it does not work for me.

    Maybe I will try another - not getting any younger you know.
     
  12. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    Compunction to persevere

    In less than 30 days, we will have completed all of our requirements for an MA degree, but it won't be officially conferred until the middle of August of 2003.

    Additionally, the MA is from a state university, which means the tuition is extremely affordable; and my employer pays 75% of it, as long as we get a "C" or better, but the university requires a "B" to stay in graduate school.

    Currently, I cannot afford the tuition rates at a private university and my employer will only pay 75% of the tuition at the state tuition level. ;) Consequently, I cannot afford Argosy University, at least not yet.

    I'm slated to get an inheritance this year, though I don't know how much. It might be a check for only five dollars. :p But if it is at least 20k, then I can afford Argosy University's doctoral program (20k coupled with my steady income).

    Regardless, I'm taking the rest of 2003 off because, well, because I deserve it!!! :p

    The MA took two years. It was two years of lethargy and seven day work-weeks. The Ed.D will be three or more years of lethargy and seven day work-weeks. Why would anyone be a glutton for that kind of punishment?

    :confused: ;) :p
     
  13. Vinipink

    Vinipink Accounting Monster

    Re: Compunction to persevere



    Congrats!


    I am debating this my self, since I can't afford Argosy as well, but if I do happen to go there it will be finance with student loans, the Idea of paying about 40K plus interest moves me to consider Northcentral, but the debates comes of the Adminstration Caos they are having, which I hope they have resolve soon. I am taking off until July, then Will make my final decision. Kudos to you!
     
  14. sulla

    sulla New Member

    Hey, Me Again, lets meet sometime for some coffee. I like to meet a member of this forum who is also attending the University of South Florida.
    :D

    Let me know your email or a way to contact you.

    Relax,

    -S
     
  15. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    Almost 5000 Views!!!

    I sent you a PM. :)

    Hey, the poll now has 100 respondants --> with some poll interesting results. :cool:

    And this thread has less than 100 posts, but almost 5000 views!!! I guess people are interested in DL doctorates!!! :p
     
  16. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    A burning, itching desire to get a doctorate...

    Touro University appears to have taken the lead by a "bums rush" in this unscientific anecdotal poll. :D

    It makes it quite tempting to investigate Touro as a possibility, although I wanted to stay away from the "internet universities" for political reasons. However, it appears that DL will be the wave of the future and it may not continue to hold the stigma that some have attached to it. Having said that...

    I'm wrapping up an MA at a traditional university and it has made me realize that I do not have the time to dedicate to a traditional doctoral program e.g. sitting all those hours and hours in a classroom setting. That same time could be better spent doing independent research and study. Thus, the internet option is looking more appealing.

    I was totally burned out academically and will take a well deserved sabbatical for at least six months and may make a decision to pursue an online doctorate beginning sometime in 2004 -- tentatively.

    I've considered the foreign doctorates, due to the cost factor (they're less expensive by leaps and bounds), but it concerns me that they are so far away. Plus, there are cultural differences that might make it more challenging.

    My current MA program won't be over until the degrees are officially conferred. And when they are, you'll be the first to know. ;) :p
     
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  17. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    I might opt for Touro because you can take one class at a time for a basic rate. In Capella’s doctoral program, you pay full tuition for each quarter, even if you only take one class. Full tuition is around $6500 or $7500 (I can’t remember the exact cost).

    Argosy also looks good, but I’m not sure I want to dedicate the next three or four years of my weekends (in their weekend program).

    I dunno. < continues scratching head >
     
  18. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    Re: Still Waffling

    I actually think Northcentral has one of the better names in the world of DL schools, certainly better than Argosy (which sounds like a skin disease) and Capella (which makes think of bums harmonizing around a flaming trash can).

    I don't think anyone minds the names Northeastern or Northwestern.


    Bruce
     
  19. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    Northcentral also has a "pay as you go" option, so you're not enticed into taking on a crippling workload as one might with a per-semester tuition plan.

    And me again, they do offer a Ph.D. in Business with a concentration in Criminal Justice Administration.


    Bruce
     
  20. Michele

    Michele New Member

    Capella PhD tuition

     

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