what should i do ??

Depends on how it is presented or how it is argued, I guess!

 

Hi Fadel and all,

I just wanted to pipe in here since I live in the UAE (and have now gotten my technical problems solved-- couldn't post earlier). The above statement isn't entirely accurate, at least not considering the government as the employer, which is most often the case in education in the GCC. Most educational institutions don't accept DL degrees for hiring instructors -- in fact, I just found out the Military Language Institute has just instituted this rule, and told staff members already there that if they had a DL Master's, they would no longer be paid the M.A. salary rate, but would be cut to the B.A. rate (as you can imagine, many are resigning).

Fadel, I assume you teach at a government school. What subject do you teach? If you teach English, and are looking to do your degree in EFL, you might also want to check out Exeter University and Aston University -- both have M.S. programs that have short residencies (one weekend a month, I think) in Dubai and Abu Dhabi, respectively. I know it would mean a greater investment in time and money to fly to the UAE every month, but you might want to see if those programs would be accepted. Otherwise, you might consider getting a teaching position in one of the private schools -- they are probably much more flexible regarding degrees.

Hopefully, this attitude will change soon, particularly considering the opening of and royal backing of the Arab Open University. Of course, those degrees might only be accepted in the private sector for awhile, but I think things will change.

Good luck to you! I hope you can find a solution to your problem!

Regards,
Adrienne

 

Saudi Team in UK to Explore E-Education Possibilities

Fadel, this might give some hope! Do you have any contacts in the Ministry?

http://www.arabnews.com/?page=1&section=0&article=41225&d=15&m=3&y=2004&pix=kingdom.jpg&category=Kingdom

Regards,

Adrienne

 

Re: The big 3?

As far as I know, there is no mention of DL, External, Distance, Online, etc. on the diplomas of TESC, COSC, or Excelsior.

 

Thank you very much Bruce. Much appreciated!

 

Your see your government in opposite from me. Goverment set rule only someone who want to work with government. Don't you know how hard for new rule in my country.

List of USA degree who can admitt to be civil servant.
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- University of Illinois at Urbana - Champaign
- University of Texas at Austin (McCombs)
- University of Southern California (Marshall)
- University of Michigan (Ann Arbor)
- University of Pennsylvania (Wharton)
- Brigham Young University – Provo (Marriott) UT
- Indiana University Bloomington (Kelly)
- University of Florida (Warrington)
- University of California, Berkeley (Haas)
- New York University (Stern)
- The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill (Kenan – Flagler)
- University of Virginia (Mc Intire)
- University of Notre Dame
- University of Wisconsin - Madison
- Arizona State University
- Michigan State University (Broad)
- Ohio State University – Columbus (Fisher)
- University of Washington
- University of Minnesota – Twin Cities (Carlson)
- Massachusetts Institute of Technology (Sloan)

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- Massachusetts Institute of Technology (Sloan)
- University of Michigan (Ann Arbor)
- University of Pennsylvania (Wharton)
- University of California, Berkeley (Haas)
- The University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill (Kenan – Flagler)
- The University of Texas at Austin (McCombs)
- University of Virginia (McIntire)
- Carnegie Mellon University (PA)
- Indiana University Bloomington (Kelley)
- New York University (Stern)
- University of Illinois at Urbana - Champaign
- University of Southern California (Marshall)
- University of Wisconsin - Madison
- Purdue University - West Lafayette (Krannert) (In)
- University of Mennesota - Twin cities (Carlson)
- Emory University (Goizueta) (GA)
- The Ohio State University – Columbus (Fisher)
- The Pennsylvania State University – University Park (Smeal)
- University of Washington
- Washington University in St. Louis (Olin)
- Michigan State University (Broad)
- University of Maryland – College Park (Smith)

3. »ÃÔ__ÒµÃÕ·Ò§¤ÍÁ¾ÔÇàµÍÃ (COMPUTER SCIENCE) - ÊËÃÑ°ÍàÁÃÔ¡Ò
- Massachusetts Institute of Technology
- Carnegie Mellon University (PA)
- University of California, Berkeley
- Cornell University (NY)
- University of Illinois at Urbana - Champaign
- University of California, Los Angeles
- California Institute of Technology
- The University of Texas at Austin
- University of Wisconsin - Madison
- Princeton University (NJ)
- University of Washington
- Georgia Institute of Technology
- Stanford University (CA)
- University of Michigan – Ann Arbor
- Purdue University – West Lafayette (IN)
- Rice University (TX)
- University of California – San Diego
- Virginia Tech
- Texas A & M University - College Station
- Johns Hopkins University
- Pennsylvania State University – University Park

4. »ÃÔ__ÒµÃÕ·Ò§àÈÃÉ°ÈÒʵÃ (ECONOMICS) - ÊËÃÑ°ÍàÁÃÔ¡Ò
- Massachusetts Institute of Technology
- University of Chicago
- Stanford University
- Princeton University
- Harvard University - Harvard and Radcliffe Colleges
- Yale University
- University of Minnesota-Twin Cities (Minneapolis)
- University of Pennsylvania
- University of Wisconsin - Madison
- University of California, Berkeley
- Northwestern University
- University of Rochester
- Columbia University
- University of California, Los Angeles
- University of Michigan (Ann Arbor)
- Johns Hopkins University
- Carnegie Mellon University
- Brown University
- University of California, San Diego
- Duke University

5. »ÃÔ__ÒµÃÕ·Ò§¡ÒèѴ¡Òà (MANAGEMENT) - ÊËÃÑ°ÍàÁÃÔ¡Ò
- University of Pennsylvania (Wharton)
- Massachusetts Institute of Technology (Sloan)
- Indiana University Bloomington (Kelly)
- University of Michigan (Ann Arbor)
- University of California, Berkeley (Haas)
- Carnegie Mellon University
- New York University (Stern)
- University of Illinois at Urbana - Champaign
- University of Virginia (McIntire)
- University of Wisconsin - Madison
- Michigan State University (Broad)
- University of Washington
- Purdue University – West Lafayette (Krannert)
- The University of Texas at Austin (McCombs)
- University of Minnesota - Twin Cities (Carlson)
- University of North Carolina – Chapel Hill (Kenan – Flagler)
- Ohio State University – Columbus (Fisher)
- Pennsylvania State University – University Park (Smeal)
- University of Maryland – College Park (Smith)
- University of Florida (Warrington)

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- University of Chicago
- Stanford University
- The University of Texas at Austin (McCombs)
- University of Illinois at Urbana - Champaign
- University of Pennsylvania (Wharton)
- University of Michigan (Ann Arbor)
- New York University (Kellogg)
- Northwestern University
- Harvard University
- University of Southern California
- University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill (Kenan – Flagler)
- Columbia University
- University of California, Berkeley
- University of Florida
- University of Rochester
- Brigham Young University
- Arizona State University
- Cornell University
- Massachusetts Institute of Technology
- Indiana University Bloomington

2. »ÃÔ__Òâ··Ò§¤ÍÁ¾ÔÇàµÍÃ (COMPUTER SCIENCE) - ÊËÃÑ°ÍàÁÃÔ¡Ò
- Massachusetts Institute of Technology
- Stanford University
- University of California, Berkeley
- Carnegie Mellon University
- University of Illinois at Urbana - Champaign
- University of Michigan (Ann Arbor)
- University of Texas at Austin
- Cornell University
- University of Washington
- Princeton University
- Purdue University - West Lafayette
- University of Wisconsin - Madison
- California Institute of Technology
- Georgia Institute of Technology
- University of California - Los Angeles
- Rice University
- University of California - San Diege
- University of Maryland – College Park
- Brown University
- University of North Carolina – Chapel Hill
- University of Pennsylvania
- Columbia University
- Duke University
- Harvard University

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- Massachusetts Institute of Technology
- University of Chicago
- Stanford University
- Princeton University
- Harvard University
- Yale University
- University of Minnesota - Twin Cities (Minneapolis)
- University of Pennsylvania
- University of California, Berkeley
- University of Wisconsin - Medison
- Northwestern University
- Columbia University
- University of California, Los Angeles
- University of Michigan (Ann Arbor)
- University of Rochester
- Carnegie Mellon University
- Cornell University
- California Institute of Technology
- University of California – San Diego
- New York University

4. »ÃÔ__Òâ··Ò§ºÃÔËÒÃÃÑ°¡Ô¨ (PUBLIC ADMINISTRATION) - ÊËÃÑ°ÍàÁÃÔ¡Ò
- Harvard University
- Syracuse University
- Indiana University - Bloomington
- Princeton University
- University of California - Berkeley
- University of Georgia
- Carnegie Mellon University
- University of Michigan- Ann Arbor
- University of Southern California
- University of Texas - Austin
- University of Wisconsin-Madison
- American University
- Columbia University
- State University of New York - Albany
- University of Chicago
- University of Kansas
- University of Minnesota-Twin Cities
- University of North Carolina-Chapel Hill
- Duke University (NC)
- George Washington University
- New York University
- University of Maryland – College Park
- University of Pittsburgh

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- Stanford University
- Harvard University
- University of Pennsylvania (Wharton)
- Massachusetts Institute of Technology (Sloan)
- Northwestern University (Kellogg)
- Columbia University
- University of Chicago
- Duke University (Fuqua)
- University of Michigan (Ann Arbor)
- University of California, Berkeley (Haas)
- Dartmouth College (Tuck)
- University of California, Los Angeles (Anderson)
- University of Virginia (Darden)
- New York University (Stern)
- Cornell University (Johnson)
- The University of Texas at Austin (McCombs)
- Yale University
- University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill (Kenan – Flagler)
- Carnegie Mellon University
- University of Southern California (Marshall)

That why I said no matter degree from don't follow government rule because for me I can't graduate from USA and came back to work with goverment anyway!!

 

zvavda,

I dont understand your last post ? You are giving a list of universities for what ? you said "List of USA degree who can admitt to be civil servant " and then you are saying you cant work in govt ? your post is confusing.

 

Sorry for my english first,

In case like fadel said I want to tell that government recognized degree abroad is for who want to work with government only.

Like I'm in Thailand, Office of the Civil Service Commision declare that if people graduate from USA only from that list can accept to be civil servant.

If I don't want to be civil servant don't follow his accredited.

It same case of fadel that his gov. not regcognize any DL degree like our gov.(I had discuss before)

 

If I want to be civil servant I will follow government regcognize.
BUT you see how hard I can be... if so I don't care his regcognize BUT only thing to consider before take DL degree is how recognized in private sector.