What is the Link Between Liccoln University, California and Midwest Missouri Univ.

Is there is a link between Lincoln University, California and Midwest Missouri University? MIT Resource Centre in Malaysia today advertised both of these universities in single advertisement. (Advertisement is attached in thread title as "New Kid on the block")

Dr. Amiya, claimed to be the regional director for Lincoln University is the owner of Midwest Missouri University and selling his degrees under the umbrella of Lincoln University.. I just hope that Lincoln University is aware of the situation..

Dr. Amiaya, who seems to be of Indian origin, operates the Midwest Missouri University from 1500 square feet of filthy space located in first floor of a miserable building with a tag name of "Maha Institute of Technology"


Peter Chin

 

Does poor Mr Madsen know there may be TWO universities in his basement?

 

I personally think that poor Madsen have no idea what has been conspired ... we should probably inform him that he is getting famous in this part of the world


Peter Chin

 

Reply From Rector of Lincoln University

Rector [email protected]

Dear Mr. Chin:

Thank you for the information. Currently there is no Lincoln
University MBA program in Malaysia. I can confirm that LU never
approved this advertising. There is no link between LU and MMU,
however, if it is an accredited university we can recognise their
credits.

I have met Dr. Amiya, he visited LU, and he recruits students for
Lincoln and negotioates organization of our programs abroad. He does
not have a position of a regional director and he cannot advertise
without our approval.

I do not see any criminality or illigal promises in this ad, but I
will request to stop it.

Sincerely
Dr. Mikhail Brodsky, President of Lincoln University



Peter Chin

 

Action Please fr Lincoln University

So, Lincoln Uni said Dr Amear is not their director and representative in Malaysia.

Then, what are they waiting. Pelase take action before somebody complain to ACICS and they may lost the accreditation.

Dr Amear also claimed that Bachelor degree from his Midwest Missouri Uni is accepted to Master program of Lincoln Uni as long as the student has a valid diploma. What is nonsense.

 

Please, Mr Ali, break the news gently to poor Mr Madsen.

 

To Dr. Mikhail Brodsky

Do you have any affiliation with the organization named "Asean studies cooperation institute" in Vietnam? This organization have been recruiting students for the MBA program leading to granted the MBA degree by Lincoln University.
Easy admission, study is chararcteristics of this program.
I have to check which LU is involved?

 

the various Lincoln Universities (all legit and independent of one another)

It's a bit confusing.

Lincoln University in Oakland, California is ACICS-accredited, that is, it is NA. It specializes in business and computers. This is the Lincoln University with which the above mentioned Dr Brodsky is affiliated.

Abraham Lincoln University in Los Angeles, California is an unaccredited DL law school acceptable to the CA bar. It also has business and computer studies.

Lincoln University in Lincoln University, Pennsylvania is RA. (Some universities in PA are in towns with slightly odd names: State College, California, Indiana.) Thurgood Marshall, Nnamde Azikiwe, and Kwame Nkrumah are among its more famous alumni.

Lincoln University of Missouri in Jefferson City, Missouri is RA. Founded by the 62nd United States Colored Infantry after its participation in the suppression of the treasonous rebellion of 1861-65, as far as I know it is the only college established on private initiative by a unit of the United States military. (Anyone know of others?)

There is also a Lincoln University in New Zealand, the University of Lincoln in England, and the University of Nebraska at Lincoln.

*ALL of the above schools are legitimate, genuinely accredited schools.*

Sometimes it's good to put this sort of extra information in a thread so that later readers don't get mixed up, thinking of one of the other schools with similar names.

PS: Neither the LU in Jeff City nor ANY other legitimately accredited university in Missouri has anything whatever to do with the Midwest Missouri Entity that ate poor Mr Madsen's fax number.

 

This Lincoln Uni that offer MBA in Vietnam is the one from California and ACICS accredited.

Why it is so Easy admission? Because Dr Amiya is involved. He planned to start the class in April and has been approaching a few of my friends who are teaching in English language school in Vietnam to teach for him and assume as Lincoln faculty memebers from USA.

Ian Gordan
MA, BA, Dip. Edu

 

Lincoln University's programs in Vietnam are not at issue here, nor is the bona fides of Lincoln University.

If this Amiya is involved in the Vietnam stuff, please document that.

Please document the easy admission.

Is English your first language, Ian Gordan? If you are struggling with a second (or third, or whatever) language, that's eminently respectable. If English is your native language, the very substandard English of your post causes me to question its reliability, especially in light of the academic claims made in your sig line.

 

Ian
Thank for your information.
The reason why I stated 'easy admissions" is that:
1. The program does not require a certain level of English at all as essential condition to be admited. Minimum condition is prospectus students shall possess the English certificate level B (recognized by Minstry of Education). But, anyone here start laughing when talking about this certificate because most of people who have this could not communicate in English.
2. Any kind of BA degree is welcomed to be accepted including many degree originated from very doubtful, poor quality program offered by a Vietnam college.
Last year when I heard about this MBA program by LU in Vietnam, I almost decided to participate in. However after I met the agent, I immediately forget this idea since I considered the program could not be a serious one.
Ian if you like, can we discuss privately, I can provide you some more interesting story.
PS, sorry for my English.

 

My dear Steve:

I trust you understand that my question about Ian Gordan's English only has a barb in it if English is his first language; if not, I certainly have no quarrel with it whatever. The vaguely Scots "handle", albeit with an unusual spelling of a name usually seen as Gordon, triggered my question. He is, of course, perfectly entitled to use his own name or any pseudonym he likes; sometimes misunderstandings arise from one's choice.

***It might well be quite meritorious to have a thread about the California LU and its doings in Vietnam. That's just different enough a spin on the topic of THIS thread to warrant ANOTHER thread for easier searching in the future.***

Anybody who has posted here a long time (including me) has seen threads mutate far away from the original topic--and, indeed, helped that to happen in order to pursue a line of inquiry.

It has been, I think, clearly established that Midwest Missouri Entity may well leave a lot to be desired. However, LU-in-California's accreditation certainly does not render it immune from criticism, if such is called for, on a new thread devoted to that topic.

Regards,
Janko

 

Dear friends who have contributed to this forum,

This is my response to some of the baseless allegations made against me, Midwest Missouri University Inc, MIT and Lincoln U in Oakland, by some members to this forum.
Firstly let me take this opportunity to apologise to both Dr.Mikhail Brodsky and Dr.Norman Madsen for any embarrassment caused to them as a result of this cheap and baseless chatter.
An explanation pertaining to the advertisement has been relayed to Dr.Brodsky.
In view of the several allegations, I would like to clarify some of the issues that were raised in this forum and put on record the following:

1) I have never claimed to the Regional Director for Lincoln U. My terms of reference with the University are to recruit students from Asia and to organise some of their programs in this part of the world.
2) Midwest Missouri University does not sell degrees nor is it not a diploma mill as made out to be by Peter Chin. MMU is legitimately registered in the State of Missouri and is a member of the US Distance Learning Association. It is worth mentioning that MMU is currently working towards higher accreditation. MMU has several committed providers in this part of the world who recruit and conduct programs legitimately to young working adults seeking the non-traditional route to acquiring a qualification. Through its quality and audit system, MMU ensures that its programs and providers cater to needs of its students.
3) I have never made whatsoever statements pertaining to the credit transfer of MMU credits on to any of LU’s programs.
4) Merit Institute of Technology (MIT) is a private education institution approved by the Ministry of Higher Education to conduct programs approved by the Malaysian national accreditation board. As a legitimate institution approved by the government we conduct several programs catering to both domestic and international students. As such it is definitely NOT a 1500 sq.ft of filthy space as claimed by Peter Chin.
5) I do not have any connections in Vietnam and thus all those allegations against me in reference to setting up a LU faculty is baseless.
6) Finally I had e-mailed Peter Chin on 22/03 to contact me with regards to this issue. Further requests were made to him to e-mail us his contact details so that I could personally clarify this issue with him. However to date I have failed to hear from him. It thus gives me the impression that this issue has been deliberately exploited to discredit my business associates and me for reasons best known to Peter Chin and his cronies.He need not fear us as we are an honest entity and not in the business of hiring bouncers to beat up those who complain aganist us as we welcome all constructive criticism.However we are grateful to this so called Peter Chin for raising this matter
7) I trust my explanations have been clear. I cannot control the remarks made to this forum but it would be much appreciated if members do not use this as a platform to discredit and destroy the good name of individuals and institutions with baseless and reckless remarks.

Thank you.

Regards,
Dr. Amiya Bhaumik

 

Dr. Amiya,

Greatly appreciate your courage to be present at his forum and thanks for your response.

Advertising an Accredited University together with an unaccredited university is itself a deceiving act whereby students are lured into your own university so called Missouri Midwest University which has no licensing, no accreditation and no authority to award a degree under the umbrella of Lincoln University.

Let us get discuss your response and comments in greater length:

1) I have never claimed to the Regional Director for Lincoln U. My terms of reference with the University are to recruit students from Asia and to organise some of their programs in this part of the world.

"Kindly keep doing the doing the direct recruitment for Lincoln University but please do Malaysian a big favor by not organizing the programs locally since with your presence the quality of such programs will obviously be down the drain"


2) Midwest Missouri University does not sell degrees nor is it not a diploma mill as made out to be by Peter Chin. MMU is legitimately registered in the State of Missouri and is a member of the US Distance Learning Association. It is worth mentioning that MMU is currently working towards higher accreditation. MMU has several committed providers in this part of the world who recruit and conduct programs legitimately to young working adults seeking the non-traditional route to acquiring a qualification. Through its quality and audit system, MMU ensures that its programs and providers cater to needs of its students.


"Nor is it not a diploma mill¡K Seems to me that you are implying that MMU is a diploma mill.

MMU is legally registered in Missouri?? Please explain what you mean and provide us with evidence that MMU has an authority to award degree. Is it licensed or accredited by State of Missouri? If it is then trust me I will personally bring a group of more than 15 students to enroll with you.

You are referring to higher accreditation such as Liberia NBOE or WAUC or IARC or something like that right? ¡Kƒº or maybe you should considering going for lower accreditation like RA, NA or probably Malaysian own LAN."


3) I have never made whatsoever statements pertaining to the credit transfer of MMU credits on to any of LU¡¦s programs.

"How do we trust a person who out an advert misleading the public? Your group of agents has been saying this around towns in Malaysia"

4) Merit Institute of Technology (MIT) is a private education institution approved by the Ministry of Higher Education to conduct programs approved by the Malaysian national accreditation board. As a legitimate institution approved by the government we conduct several programs catering to both domestic and international students. As such it is definitely NOT a 1500 sq.ft of filthy space as claimed by Peter Chin.

"I thought it is MAHA Instiute!!. Correction to your statement required; MIT is only approved by Department of Private Education and not Department of Higher Education. MIT is also only approved to conduct certificate and diploma courses. Should I take a picture of facility and put it up to stress my point provided you let me??

As to my good knowledge MIT is not authorized or approved by Accreditation Board to organize any degree programs. If you are please enlighten us."

5) I do not have any connections in Vietnam and thus all those allegations against me in reference to setting up a LU faculty is baseless.


Steve could assist in this matter.


6) Finally I had e-mailed Peter Chin on 22/03 to contact me with regards to this issue. Further requests were made to him to e-mail us his contact details so that I could personally clarify this issue with him. However to date I have failed to hear from him. It thus gives me the impression that this issue has been deliberately exploited to discredit my business associates and me for reasons best known to Peter Chin and his cronies.He need not fear us as we are an honest entity and not in the business of hiring bouncers to beat up those who complain aganist us as we welcome all constructive criticism.However we are grateful to this so called Peter Chin for raising this matter

"I had reply to your email but off course I would not give you my house address and contact numbers since the nature of business you are in is alarming and my and my family security is my prime concern.

BTW are you a self claim doctor by MMU?"


7) I trust my explanations have been clear. I cannot control the remarks made to this forum but it would be much appreciated if members do not use this as a platform to discredit and destroy the good name of individuals and institutions with baseless and reckless remarks.

"Your explanation is baseless and totally rubbish and so is your name and the Insitution you own is a fraud and diploma mill"

 

I just went to the Missouri Department of Higher Education search page and didn't find any listing for Midwest Missouri University.

http://www.dhe.mo.gov/degreesearch.shtml

I did find a 2004 record of an application by MMU:

http://www.dhe.mo.gov/mdhe/boardbook2content.jsp?id=61

It's possible that the Missouri listings haven't been updated or that I'm looking in the wrong place. But MMU's failure to appear on the Missouri listing certainly raises questions.

The notice of application decribes MMU this way:

Midwest Missouri University
St. Louis, Missouri
This proposed institution, operated as a private, non-profit corporation, has submitted an application to establish its administrative offices in the state of Missouri. The proposal currently includes a single instructional program, a Master of Business Administration (MBA). The program is designed to address the needs of students from southern and southeastern Asia for advanced business education. All coursework would be delivered using a blended system of classroom instruction, distance education and independent study. All classroom instructional components would be delivered at sites geographically convenient to clusters of enrolled students. The school is not accredited.

My question is, if this school is owned by a Malaysian resident and exists to serve students in Asia, then what's the connection to Missouri? Why was the attempt made (whether it was successful or not) to register Midwest Missouri Univesity in Missouri? Why wasn't this thing named Midwest Malaysia University and registered in KL?

I could have sworn that MIT was this place:

http://www.mit.edu/aboutmit/

Shows how much I know.

 

Re: Re: What is the Link Between Liccoln University, California and Midwest Missouri Univ.

University registration in Malaysia is a long and costly affair and could easily take between 5 to 8 years and might require a $10 million capital. In camparison, a university with the name of Midwest Missouri University can be registered probably in less than $100 dollars but off course it is only company registration and mean nothing. However, people like Dr. Amiya projects such entity as a US university and con hundred of people into enrolling for so called seminar based distance learning programs designed for working adults. Ninety nine percent of these students would never be able to go US to see whose basement is thisUniversity is located in Missouri..


Peter Chin

 

Hello I am a closed friend of Peter Chin . He has been asking me to take part in this forum. I am not surprised to see lies made by Peter Chin . Peter Chin has been selling degrees to all Chinese studetns from China who come to Malaysia . He has his own self made university . I used to take part with him and he gave me some money too . But I realised that is wrong and I have told him that I will not join with him any more .

Peter has been trying to get a campus based univeristy so that his degree mill students ( so called students ) can get MBA degree .


Several times Peter has called Lincoln University President for the program ( infront of me ) . He did not get . That is why he is angry .


He used to run CSU, IIU , UNC and many more . Now he has his own self made University

Peter is a real lier and he will deny to this . Folks he is desperate and do not believe him

Show how much I know

 

Re: Re: Re: What is the Link Between Liccoln University, California and Midwest Missouri Univ.

A business registration in Missouri that includes the word 'university' in its name wouldn't give the new entity the right to grant degrees. That would require the approval of the Missouri Department of Higher Education. The DHE search page doesn't produce a listing for 'Midwest Missouri University'.

Frankly, if MMU's owners and classes are all located thousands of miles away in Malaysia, and if the Missouri 'administrative office' is just a convenience address, it's not difficult to see why Missouri might decide to turn them down.

 

I looked also and could find absolutely nothing, but I wasn't certain I was looking at the correct State of Mo stuff. Thanks, Bill, your superior searching skills are manifest once again. Mills, beware!

 

And Mr Chong's post is defamatory on every thread where he has chosen to repeat it. Newbies and lurkers, be not deceived!