What If Trump....

Discussion in 'Political Discussions' started by Rich Douglas, Dec 17, 2020.

  1. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    ...had won the popular vote, while losing the EC tally in 2020. In other words, the result Hillary Clinton experienced in 2016. Would he, like her, concede gracefully?
  2. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    I think that it is safe to assume that Trump would not concede gracefully under any circumstances.

    Let me pose this question. When have we ever seen Trump behave gracefully?
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  3. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    The last 4 years show that HRC conceded but it wasn't gracefully.
    It appeared graceful but what came after was anything but graceful.
    If anybody was graceful it was Sanders, after DNC screwed him. (Dominion machines used by DNC?)

    From Russia with love
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  4. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    You've said something similar before. It did not make much sense then either.
    Aren't these the facts:

    HRC conceded gracefully.
    Other shit happened.

    You seem to assume some connection that defies logic. What connection is there between those two sentences. Or alternatively try to explain what that connection is because I sure don't see what you're trying to get at? If you want I can find a link to the HRC concession speech?

    Isn't that the same set of facts for all modern presidential elections except for 2020?
    Loser concedes gracefully.
    Then other shit happens.
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  5. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    In what way? She conceded to the guy, met with him, and left the scene. No 60 lawsuits, no baseless accusations of fraud, no threats to elected officials.

    Please show us where Clinton was less graceful in defeat than has been Trump. I'm dying to see that one.
    In what way? Again, where are your facts? Sanders ran for the nomination twice and was beaten twice. Not surprising since he's not even a Democrat, but please show us how he was "screwed."

    This makes no sense. In what way?

    Lerner, you say a lot of things that you expect people to accept prima facie, but they're not commonly held ideas. If you don't support them, they're easily dismissed.
  6. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    It’s Dems, who have never accepted 2016 results, saying they won’t concede, not Trump.

    My logic is that the concession speech and stop was symbolic and RHC was the "man" enough to give the concession speech but the tactic was lets get Trump after that. But there is a difference between 2016 allegations of fraud and 2020.
    The alleged fraud and irregularities in 2020 are humongous in comparison to 2016. I know that this wasn't proven in the courts but who knows if RHC would have conceded if her campaign team

    alleged such fraud against her. Remember her advice to President Elect Biden? Clinton said, “Joe Biden should not concede under any circumstances because I think this is going to drag out.”
    Dem's challenged the results of the 2016 election continually since inauguration so the concession was symbolic.
    Dems had false charges and accusations that have been leveled incessantly against the president in numerous wrongful attempts to overturn the results of that election.
    Wow! Facts and history leave no doubt which group does not accept final election results. It is the leftists, and other anti-Trumpers, who have been attempting to nullify the 2016 election results.

    I'm convinced that president Trump is not making up but truly believes he wan and and the elections been stolen and its possibly that his legal team is conditioning to feel this way but the reality slowly being acknowledged.
  7. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Since you use Trump, I'll use Clinton. She conceded the next day. Trump still has not and will not ever concede.
    They're non-existent. The Trump team has failed 60 times to prove anything. Empty allegations are actually damning proof it doesn't exist.
    No. The Mueller Report belies that.
  8. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member


    I have to go away for awhile, perhaps permanently. It's been fun. Hope to "see" you again sometime.

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  9. Steve Levicoff

    Steve Levicoff Well-Known Member

    What . . . Again??? Just after starting the 475th thread on Trump? And not even a kiss goodbye?

    One can only begin to speculate the why and wherefore of this latest move. Covid-19 with underlying conditions and a poor prognosis? Cancer? Or just a realization that Rich was not contributing much more than meaningless one-liners in threads that were irrelevant to a DL forum?

    Well, whatever it is, I hope it resolves well. Remember, Rich, despite your foibles I have appointed you the forum's elder statesman once John Bear moves on to the great beyond.

    P.S. For those who already miss him, you can read up on his LinkedIn page at Rich Douglas | LinkedIn.
  10. TeacherBelgium

    TeacherBelgium Well-Known Member

    You can be so mean haha.
    I think you would make lots of cash with a comic show.
    Now that people hate Ellen Degeneres, maybe you can have the '' Levicoff show '' instead aired during her time? :)
  11. TeacherBelgium

    TeacherBelgium Well-Known Member

    Putin lashed out at a journalist yesterday for daring to ask why the Russian hackers didn't help Trump during these past elections.
    He said '' you are just trying to trigger, that was not a sincere question ''.
    So probably there was fraud involved during Trump's first election round.
    Who knows. We'll probably never know. It's history now.
    Trump is 74. He's not likely to make a presidential come back.
    He would be 78 in 4 years from now and won't probably even be interested anymore or have the courage anymore to lead a country until his 82nd birthday.
    I'll miss his nonsense though.
    He was the best mockery ever.
  12. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    I got my kiss. You jealous? :-D
  13. TeacherBelgium

    TeacherBelgium Well-Known Member

    Hey I want a kiss too!
  14. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Yuck. Not me. By the way, I've avoided my frequent winter colds and occasional mild flu (I get the shot) this year. A virus is a virus and anti-Covid measures are effective against these other ills as well, it seems.

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