US Fake School Scamming Students from India

That's actually a quote from the tv show East Bound and Down, but it seemed so fitting for this discussion.

 

Did you read what I wrote?

I said I think a government don't have the right to disrespect basic human rights of a person just because such person is a foreigner.

I didn't say that the USA has the monopoly in mistreating foreigners (although it probably has the worst record in this regard among developed nations)

I really don't see your point. Of course all the cases you cited are really a shame too.

Read before you post.

 

I don't want to use profanity language in here; however, bravo to ITJD. Good job, ITJD!

 

You seem to be confusing due process of law in regards to foreigners. Whether or not they are foreigners is irrelevant.

If you are under suspicion of a Felony level crime, you will be in a holding cell or similar (tracking bracelets) until the case is resolved, citizen OR foreigner. In the country I am living in now, everyone of them would have been immediately jailed, and shortly after deported (or just left to rot in jail maybe).

 

Referring back to your old posts; I am a conservative and I don’t believe the Government is the solution. I do believe they have made mistake; in this case, the mistake that they allowed certain students entered the country to attend bogus school.

I have read everything you wrote. The law says that one is not guilty until proven; however, it does not state one is not a suspect until proven. Anytime the case investigation is not completed; these students at Tri-Valley University are still the suspects. The Government use the ankle bracelet to monitor them to ensure they are not fleeting the area; and hard to track them. If you think the Government treat these students inhumanly; they have been to jail. As I have mentioned before about these students use Tri-Valley University as an anchor to stay in the United States. The majority of them transferred from accredited schools, which meant the US Department of States approved them to attend legit universities.

Sure, you did not say that; but in your tone you were targeting the US Government mistreating foreigners. And you stated clearly, “ANY GOVERNMENT.” That means none of the Governments out there except the United States Government.

Do you have a valid source? For this case, I am now targeting you because you believe that you about to be treated unfairly. Well, if you have valid source...then should hot have come here for studying. It is logic that if you believe the US Government mistreating foreigners, then you should have not chosen the United States over Canada (where weed is legal), UK, France, Australia, or even New Zealand. I am sure nobody forced you to come here to study. Unless you have your own loophole and want to stay here after you’re done with studying.
For your information, I am not in the Military anymore; but I still keep my oath to defense this country until I die.

 

I agree with this suggestion.

 

Me too. This should be in the off-topic or political forum.

 

I have spoken with a representative of one of the schools in question who had direct dealings with the foreign students. State universities and other higher education institutions love these kinds of students because they are "cash paying" and pay the higher "out of state" or international tuition rates (and lower schools' dependence on federal grants and loans). The students were enrolled in the legitimate accredited schools, were they were expected to devote their time to their studies. They are required to have a sufficient amount of funds in their accounts to cover their expenses. This is the scenario that everyone hopes will happen.

Unfortunately, it appears that many of these students are using the study visa program to come to the country to work, rather than pursue studies. Family members and friends pad their accounts with money, which disappears once the student arrives. In this case, most, if not all, of the students were enrolled in accredited colleges and universities and then, somehow "made aware" of this "university" in California that was quite a bit cheaper than the universities in which they were enrolled. The students left their legitimate universities “en masse” and “transferred” to the California operation and, according to my source, did not attend any classes, but were working full-time, earning money and “credits” for “work experience.”


Now that the California operation has been raided, the students have now tried to return to their original legitimate institutions. So, it is possible that some students were duped due to having the school represented as either approved by the state or accredited (albeit by a bogus agency). It also seems clear that, in at least some cases, students were fully aware of what they were doing and were trying to use schoolwork as a front to get higher paying jobs in the U.S.

 

No, it doesn't. You should go back to English 101.

 

I'm gonna ignore the insinuation that maybe I'll try to stay here illegally. Trust me - the first time I come to the USA to study it was in the 90's. If I wanted to stay here illegally I would had done so years ago, especially because it's very easy to do it. Your insinuation just reinforce the xenophobic tone of this thread.

But back to your other, more reasonable question: why am I here if I know (I don't think, I know as most well informed people know) the USA government mistreat foreigners?

Well, because the american government is not the USA! I know some liberals love to think the government is everything, but it's not. USA is a great country because of its people and its culture.

When I'm say that I'm being very sincere but it doesn't mean I'm gonna ignore the shortcomings of the american government, like the crazy and absurd foreign policy or the mistreat of foreigners.

To be patriotic doesn't mean you have to ignore the mistakes or shortcomings of your country (it seems a lot of americans agree with me. Wasn't Obama elected to "change"?).

I'm very patriotic but I'm the first to point out everything that it's wrong with my country (and there's so many things wrong with Brazil...).

You could do the same - it doesn't mean that you don't love the US and it's not willing to defend it.

 

There are things wrong with this country, but our treatment of foreigners isn't one of them. For the last time, these "students" weren't treated any differently than many US citizens accused of breaking the law. Our country doesn't mistreat foreigners. If you're that disenchanted with how foreigners are treated here get the hell out. You chose to come to the US.

I'm not trying to be a dick, you genuinely seem like a nice enough guy from what I've seen on this board, but quite frankly I have a problem with someone coming to my country, enjoying the benefits of living in my country, then proceeding to point out everything that is wrong with it. You're under no obligation to stay. I've lived in three countries besides the US in my life and I can honestly say I never pointed out policies in those countries I disagreed with while living there. Why? Because I chose to live there and understood that there might be things I found objectionable. It's not your place as a visitor to tell us what you think we do wrong.

 

Except if the US finds that they were deceived they may be allowed to change schools.

Yes he or she would be treated the same way - I see it often at my local courthouse - US citizens suspected of a crime are often required to put up a bond, wear an ankle bracelet, or accept the hospitality of the local jail until they appear for a trial or a hearing.

 

I have to disagree with this statement... There's proven mistreatment of foreigners in the US by some government officials. That said, one cannot judge the whole system based on a few rotten elements. A simple Google search would suffice to get relevant information on this subject.

 

You could expand your statement to include the mistreatment of US citizens* by government officials. But as you noted, mistreatment by govt officials it is not the norm and offending officials are disciplined.

* for example this report in the news today Controversy Rages Over Houston Cop Beating Tape - The Early Show - CBS News

 

Speaking of getting student visa to come to the United States. I attended Capalla University's colloquium (residency), I met a lady she was doing her residency as well. She said that she applied for student visa to attend the residency, but the US Embassy in Dubai rejected her application. Even though Capella University provided her all the document for the process. The US Embassy told her to apply for business visa instead student visa.

Well, Capella University is a solely distance learning, but legit and accredited. However, she was not able to obtain a student visa. So, how students at Tri-Valley University were able to obtain their student visa initially from their home countries?

 

Was that called for? Not cool.

Abner

 

I think you are the one need to go back to English 101. Anyway, now I understand why your belief those students at Tri-Valley University are not the suspects. Here is what I quote from an article from the Chronicle of Higher Education, "students were able to collect up to 20 percent of the tuition of any new student they referred..." According to that statement in the article, the student could receive free tuition and a visa to stay if he or she gets enough referrals. With their action in referrals, you don't believe that is fraud? If you don't believe so, then I assume this is normal activity in your home country. However, it is illegal in this country and will be prosecuted likes any others.

 

how to report student who used fake degrees to secure admission in us college

Hello There,

How to report an international student who used fake documents to get admission in my college, not only that he used fake financial documents to secure a 100% scholarship.
This is insane where other deserving national students are getting only 60% of financial aid, an international is enjoying life to fullest using fake degrees.

please help me to report this.

Tammara D'Mello

 

If you have evidence of this, report it to the registrar's office at your college.