University of Oxford - Executive Diploma in Global Business (£27,020)

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  1. nomaduser

    nomaduser Active Member

  2. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Not too high for you, maybe. For the rest of us, it's $36,208! That's a lot for a grad certificate. I know - it's Oxford, but.... :eek:
     
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  3. Thorne

    Thorne Active Member

    Especially since you can get a Postgraduate Certificate from Harvard for less, namely Strategic Management ($14,500) and Business Economics ($11,600)
     
  4. nomaduser

    nomaduser Active Member

    This is not a certificate.
    This is a graduate diploma.. which is a degree.

    certificate (proves 1 year of study or less) < diploma (proves more than 1 year of study)
     
  5. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    No it isn't. It's a diploma. Yes, that beats a certificate. But where does it say it's a degree of any type.? Clue: It doesn't. It's a fancy, post-bachelor's award (not a Master's) that costs over $36K. It says it's a "Master's Level diploma" but it's not a degree. In fact, it's a"pathway" to the MBA.
     
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  6. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Over 36K for a "Pathway?" OML - how much does the full MBA cost?
     
  7. Thorne

    Thorne Active Member

    This distinction doesn't really matter in the US, though maybe it matters elsewhere. The point you made to distinguish diploma vs certificate isn't entirely right, though, because there are plenty of PGDips that take only 1 year to complete even from UK schools.

    Also, one can get a full Master's from Harvard for only $35k, which is a better credential from an equivalent school for less money.
     
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  9. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

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  10. TeacherBelgium

    TeacherBelgium Active Member

    You own an Alfa Romeo 4C Spyder?
    Pick me up and drop me off at university, please.
    Then I can say that my really cool, secret agent grandfather brought me :)
     
  11. Mac Juli

    Mac Juli Well-Known Member

    Hello!

    I would have opened a thread with Oxford as a topic, too, but you beat me. I would have, however, posted a link on https://www.conted.ox.ac.uk/. Many undergraduate and postgraduate awards and courses. For some of us / me, this is extra interesting: EXCEL VBA Programming for business!

    Best regards,
    Mac Juli
     
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  12. smartdegree

    smartdegree Active Member

    I think the reaction to your comment shows how educational qualifications differ across countries even if the naming convention is similar.

    In the US/Canada, diplomas and certificates are not degrees. However, I am aware that in some countries, notably India, a postgraduate diploma is considered as equivalent to a degree. Some US universities are aware of this, and thus have a separate suite of programs for internationals that are labeled "diplomas" (because they sound better to international students' ears) even though they are really just certificates. Case in point is UC Berkeley Extension and UC Riverside Extension which award "diplomas" to international students who complete its certificate programs.

    I can bet you if they renamed Harvard Extension's graduate certificates as "diplomas" (without changing anything), international enrolment will increase significantly.
     
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  13. nomaduser

    nomaduser Active Member

    US universities usually issue an Associate's Degree for 2 years of full-time study.
    I was thinking a two-year Diploma is equivalent to an Associate's Degree...

    Some music schools in US will give you a diploma for studying 2 years full-time. This includes Juilliard School, New England Conservatory, Berklee College of Muisc, etc. They kinda work like an associate's degree. Artist Diploma proves 2 years of full-time study just like an Associate's degree.

    In UK, you get a Diploma of Higher Education (DipHE) for studying full-time for 2 years at a university.
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diploma_of_Higher_Education

    It's considered a 'Qualification'... not just a certificate. It's equivalent to US Associate's Degree which requires 2 years of full-time study.
    You can get a job with Diploma of Higher Education for sure.
    Diploma of Higher Education is not equivalent to just Diploma by the way
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diploma
     
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  14. nomaduser

    nomaduser Active Member

    "The Diploma certifies that a student has achieved the minimum standard after conclusion of a second year course of tertiary education in science or the liberal arts. If a student is undertaking a full Bachelor of Arts, a Diploma of Higher Education marks two-thirds of their undergraduate degree. This suggests that the British Diploma ranks ahead of an American Associate of Arts (which in American parlance is a two-year undergraduate, or half of a BA/BS). That being stated, American universities generally consider UK Diplomas equivalent to a college-level Associate of Arts even though a British student typically holds more credit hours (and therefore more study time) in the arts, humanities and/or sciences."
     
  15. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Maybe it's equivalent to an associate's or something. Only an evaluator can say. But I note you have to have a bachelor's before you can take this - I repeat -IT IS NOT A DEGREE, as you stated.
    That's 2/3 of a 3-year degree - so, OK, "equivalent" to a 2-year US Associate's, if you like. But "equivalent" is where I have to stop. Oxford calls these "Master's Level Diplomas," not "Master's degrees." Any attempt to equate these diplomas with degrees is the work of Nomaduser, not Oxford.

    You may have to do Master's Level work (and pay Doctoral level fees) for this one, but - no degree. You'll meet the nicest people, though...
     
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  16. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Yes, that's what is required. But this does not appear to be a Dip. H.E. It's a grad deal and appears to be a creation of some particularly imaginative Dons of Oxford; they call it a "Master's level diploma," not a Dip. H.E. or any previous known qualification. First time I've seen it in the academic lexicon.

    British Universities sometimes bring out very unusual naming conventions. I recall a Welsh school, that revived the "Licence," a Medieval degree. Appropriately, one could earn (by distance) a Licence in Latin. I believe it was deemed (by the University) as equivalent to a Master's. No longer offered, unfortunately.
     
  17. TEKMAN

    TEKMAN Semper Fi!

    Is College Diploma popular in the Commonwealth?
     
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  18. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    It's common in Canada for Community Colleges to offer Diplomas for two and three-year programs. In some provinces, notably British Columbia, these are being replaced by Associate Degrees. You can now get more advanced credit than previously for a College Diploma, if you go to University afterward. Often you can get "time served," i.e. 2 years of credit at Uni for your 2- year College Diploma. Most, if not all, College diploma programs (at least in Ontario) can be laddered into a degree completion program, including
    tech / industrial ones. Usually, those require about 10 University courses post-Diploma and you get a Bachelor's.

    There is a new trend here in Ontario: some Community Colleges are awarding Bachelor's degrees directly. I know one young man who is working on a 4-year Bachelor's in Game Design at Sheridan College. Darn fine school - very progressive, always has been. Both my sons are Sheridan grads, so - no wonder I like the school. They did, too.
     
  19. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    No, that's just what I'd do with the $108K Cdn. I'd save by not buying an Oxford MBA. I still have a driver's licence, but I don't want the expense. If I did, yeah, the Alfa would do nicely. Here, once you get to 80, it's like being an alcoholic - the Government makes you go to meetings - but only once a year. How be your secret agent grandpa picks you up in a DAF from the 60s. A bright yellow one, maybe. That'd be cool...wouldn't it? Or how about a "boîte de sardine" - Citroën 2CV? :)
     
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  20. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Excel and VBA. Most useful thing Microsoft ever released. Thankfully, there's also Excel for Mac. (The machine, not the man.) :)
     
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