University of London LLB

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by worthingco, Apr 12, 2002.

  1. worthingco

    worthingco New Member

    Anyone on this forum currently enrolled in or a graduate of U of L's External LLB degree programme? Has anyone used any of the various private companies offering online tutoring for this programme? Please share your experiences or opinions.

  2. Kane

    Kane New Member


    First, The U of L is the school I have chosen to take my LLB with. It is one of the most affordable in that its most expensive scheme costs (2429.00 pounds) $5,555.00 CDN, $3494.00 USD over a 4 year period.

    Second, It is fully accredited. It received the Royal Charter in 1836. This school is as valid as Osgoode Hall at the University of Toronto.

    Third, Great reputation. I have never heard anyone in the world of distance education say a bad word about this school and even some UK commentators have put this school in the same category as Cambridge, quite a compliment. I have even found members of commonwealth governments outside of the UK have U of L degrees.

    Fourth, Independent flexible study that is still challenging. You have a lot of freedom along with a lot of work. This is a great bonus.

    Fifth, U of L law degrees are valid in Canada, though you may have to complete an additional year and a half at a Canadian law school for bar eligibilty. However it eliminates the need for a 3 year undergraduate degree and cuts your time for bar eligibility down substantially if you play your cards right.

    Hope this helps?
  3. Kane

    Kane New Member


    I was so excited in my U of L preaching I missed part of your question.

    I would not use tutorials personally as it adds a rather tidy amount to your tuition bill. I have found that networking with other students personally or using the internet to look up what I need to work better for me. But then again that is me.

    Including the infamous Robert Mugabe, President of Zimbabwe. Mugabe has seven earned degrees (in addition to fourteen honorary doctorates). The seven earned degrees include two from Unisa and four from University of London. Mugabe could be the poster boy for distance education! Indeed, I heard from an inside source that he was also pursuing a PhD through the University of London external programme.
  5. Kane

    Kane New Member


    Thanks Gert...I kinda had South Africa in mind!!! *LOL*

    Regarding U of L's!!! *LOL*

    Well even power hungry dictators have a right to learn YA KNOW!!! *LOL*

    I still love U of L though *S*
  6. worthingco

    worthingco New Member

    Hi Kane & thanks for your eager response.

    Are you currently enrolled in the LLB pgm yet? Have you written any exams?
  7. worthingco

    worthingco New Member

    Hey Kane...I thought you were doing a BSc Management/Law through U of L as opposed to a LLB?
  8. Kane

    Kane New Member

    I thought I was too

    I had a change of heart. I thought an LLB would go further then a BSc.

    Part two. I just applied so I have not started yet
  9. worthingco

    worthingco New Member

    I agree with you. In my opinion, a LLB has more utility than a BSc. Also, you need a LLB to practice law in Canada and other commonwealth nations.

    The best of luck to you.
  10. Nosborne

    Nosborne New Member

    How interesting!

    Does the Canadian association of Law Societies care whether your University of London LLB is external or internal?

  11. Kane

    Kane New Member


    Here is some clarification on your question from a Canadian U of L external LLB graduate.

    Go to: and look up the following article

    "On Legal Skills, Distance Learning and Entering the Legal Profession" By Susan M. Thomson, M.A LL.B(Hon)*

  12. worthingco

    worthingco New Member

    Hi Nosborne.

    In short "no". I sent an e-mail to the Federation of Law Societies of Canada asking them that very question. After all, I didn't see any point in doing a LLB degree externally if I couldn't practice in Canada. FLSC confirmed that external degrees are evaluated on the same basis as a degree studied the traditional B&M way. For more info...see and look under "foreign lawyers".

    The FLSC has a committee that reviews an applicant's foreign law degree and credentials. In many cases foreign law degree holders are required to attend a Canadian law school for about a year and a half or so or write challenge exams. Or...perhaps....a combination of the two. The process is rigorous and they don't just take anyone. Once an applicant has completed the committee's requirements, then he or she can apply for admission to the law society in the province they intend to practice.
  13. dlkereluk

    dlkereluk New Member

    You'd need a BCL (or equivalent) to practice in Quebec, because they follow the "Civil Code" (civil law) in most circumstances.
    I am curious as to whether or not a BCL is offered by DL anywhere.

  14. Kane

    Kane New Member

    Good point

    Unless you wish to practice law in Quebec or conduct your business there. It would be better to stick with a tradition LLB.

    I have never heard of a BCL DL programme from Quebec.
  15. Nosborne

    Nosborne New Member

    I also have wondered if anyone offers a civil law degree by D/L. It occurs to me, though, that such a thing would be of limited utility even if it exists:

    1. The study of law is the study of highly technical language. There are few if any PURE civil law jurisdictions where the legal language is English. Lots and lots of Spanish and French jurisdictions, but no English ones. There are always Louisiana and Scotland, but these are really "mixed" civil and common law and neither has a D/L law program that I've been able to find.

    2. Civil law jurisdictions themselves vary WIDELY one from another. German law is radically different from French law which looks really different from Brazilian law. I am not sure one can really study "civil law" as a distillate, so to speak.

    3. The BCL as offered by Oxford University is a master's degree not a degree for aspiring legal practitioners. Resident only, of course. I know of NO other English language BCL programs.

    I suppose that the best a common law citizen can hope to do is study civil law in the limiting context of "comparative" law. Not quite the same thing! Or, of course, one could be like a charming young Chilean woman I know. She speaks lovely English, has an American citizen parent, and just took the Bar exam in Chile. She has the language skills to become a very successful international lawyer and could easily (so I tell her) acquire an American LLM in the common law! Ah, youth!

    Nosborne, JD

    (who is too dumb to learn decent Spanish though surrounded by that graceful tongue)
  16. worthingco

    worthingco New Member

    There are also mixed legal systems throughout the world that have a common law component such Israel, South Africa, Scotland and the Philippines...just to name a few. UNISA is the only school offering a DL hybrid LLB that I am aware of.

    Canada doesn't have a DL LLB. So...there are others like myself who pursue studies at U of L.
  17. worthingco

    worthingco New Member

    Hey Nosborne...are you a member of the State Bar of NM? Just wondering if you are a practising attorney?
  18. Nosborne

    Nosborne New Member

    Yes, I am a practising member of the New Mexico state bar. I am employed by the State public defender department.

  19. Nosborne

    Nosborne New Member

    Speaking of Israel, BTW, I understand that immigrants from the United States who are licensed here may take the Israeli bar exam and write their answers in English.
    The QUESTIONS are in Hebrew, though.

    Nosborne, JD
  20. worthingco

    worthingco New Member

    Israeli Bar Exam

    Interesting...I haven't heard of that before.

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