UNISA lets DETC lapse

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by Vincey37, Jun 10, 2007.

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  1. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member


    Quite true!

    Abner
     
  2. okydd

    okydd New Member

    I am a long time reader of this forum.

    At present I am taking an online MBA through Laurentian University. It’s a program between CGA and Laurentian university where I only need to complete 5 courses at C$1500 per course. I am on my fourth course, and have been doing research and what next I’ll do. Financial reasons have limited me to what universities I can approach.
    I am very happy the UNISA is not DETC accredited. I am looking at doing a Research Doctoral degree with a South African university. I crossed off UNISA because of the DETC accreditation but now it’s back on my list.
    Personally, I do want to do a DETC accredited program. However, I will encourage anyone who is interested in doing a DETC accredited program because I have nothing negative to say about DETC.

    Okydd
     
  3. Mundo

    Mundo New Member



    Ok, let me see if I understand. You crossed off UNISA because of its DETC accreditation without regard to its own country's recognition and its worldwide great reputation. And now that UNISA is no longer accredited by DETC you are willing to consider them.

    I don't get it; DETC was an additional accrediting body not the exclusive accreditor of UNISA.

    I don't understand!

    Pepe
     
  4. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    Rich,

    Here is your proof of one student that was turned off because of the DETC accreditation.

    Another student was myself, I was totally turned off because USQ applied for DETC accreditation.

    I know this is a small sample but you wanted some evidence.
     
  5. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    If you were planning to teach, you wouldn't want your prospect employer to find out that your PhD is from a DETC accredited school (although UNISA was not granted DETC accreditation at the doctoral level). A total turn off for a prospect employer. In this case, having it is worst than not having it at all.
     
  6. Mundo

    Mundo New Member


    Are you sure okydd and you are not the same person?

    Just curious!

    Pepe
     
  7. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    Very positive,
     
  8. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member


    Interesting, Can you explain why are you only required to finish 5 courses? are given credit for something else?
     
  9. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    The "don't understand" notion is based on the fact that in Australia, Canada, UK and South Africa we don't have the concept of "prestigious" accreditation and non prestigious accreditation. The US accreditation is complex as you have many types of accreditation and being "accredited" is not enough to differentiate between institutions. From the South African perspectice, they wanted to be accredited in the US and thought that the DETC accreditation was going to give them more credibility in the US but the fact is that they are not seeing any advantage of this. On the contrary, some students are seeing this as a negative thing as the student in the previous post. If they had a clear idea of what DETC accreditation is they wouldn't have even tried it on the first place.
     
  10. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    :) You read my mind.


    Abner
     
  11. Vincey37

    Vincey37 New Member

    Let's also remember there are foreign universities which are RA, inevitably bringing up the question (justified or not - I am absolutely not making a judgement on DETC here)

    "Not good enough for RA?"

    If I was looking for a foreign university, there would be a lot of things more important than US accreditation. But all other things being equal, I do think I would choose the one without DETC.
     
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  12. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    Rich,

    Here another one for you. An yes, I'm not Vincey37. More proof that UNISA's DETC is a turn off for some prospect students?
     
  13. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member


    That's overwhelming proof! One guy who suddenly signed up today, and Vincey, wow!!!. I will let Rich speak for himself.

    See ya,

    Abner
     
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  14. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    My original statement is "I'm sure that UNISA lost more than one prospect customer because of the DETC accreditation"

    If you notice, it says "more than one". I never stated than a vast majority would see it as a negative issue.

    It doesn't take many postings to probe this point. I don't really want to make a "research study" out of this, I just want to make the point that DETC might hurt more than helping to attract students.
     
  15. okydd

    okydd New Member

    It is a program between the Association of Certified General Accountants and Laurentian University. CGAs are exempted from the financial courses.

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    On the other stuff with DETC. It may not be logical to some, but I am not interested in doing a DETC accredited program in business.


    Here is double talk; I am enrolled in Nationuniversity's Mmin program. I'm not doing too well, not motivated to tackle the demands, but if by a stroke of luck it became DETC, I am sure my outlook will change. The difference is that I am taking this program for general interest.

    Note: I have no connection to any members on this board.

    okydd
     
  16. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    Thanks for this, I looked at the site and looks interesting. As for UNISA and DETC, you are new to the discussion board so you must know that any post that suggests that DETC is inferior will be attacked to dead as some people here get very sensitive about this.
     
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  17. PaulC

    PaulC Member


    A notable research university is able to conduct rigorous inquiry into medicine and science, but cannot figure out the concept of CHEA, RA, and the DETC: concepts apparently not so abstract that they can be mastered by the every day geniuses that frequent this forum.

    I met and spoke with the UNISA representatives that were initially involved with pursuing DETC. Any decision that may lead them to not re-up their DETC association has nothing to do with their knowledge of the American accreditation system. It has more to do with opportunity costs than ignorance.
     
  18. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Why? What possible impact (negative) could DETC accreditation have on an already-recognized university's degrees?
     
  19. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member


    Two (?) anonymous posters hardly constitute "evidence." They're "opinions" from anonymous sources, which is significantly different.
     
  20. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member


    Interesting opinion. However, when researching this very topic for my doctorate, I didn't run accross a single case like this. Under no circumstances was DETC accreditation worse than no accreditation at all. And nothing supports this position.
     

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