Un-enrolled, but still have to pay?

Please be very careful of the tuition requirements. Most institutions have ver stringent guidelines if you withdrawal after the course material has been sent to you. I is very common now for the intitution to notify the credit bureau which will list you as a credit risk. This will ruin all your existing credit and you won't even be notified. Good Luck....

 

What you have is a contractual issue. Contractual issues are not based on what you feel is fair, sane, or common practice; they are based on what is agreed to in the contract.

Asking members what the policy of their schools are is irrelevant to your situation. You agreed to the contract, and that is what you will have to live with.

I'm not an attorney, and therefore cannot give you specific legal advice. But, in my profession I work with contracts all the time. I can advise you to take a very close look at the terms. If you feel the terms are in your favor, or are vague, you may be able to persue further legal action.

You are not the first peson who has posted with this problem. As mentioned in your replies, it is very important to read and understand a contract before you agree to it.

Many people in your situation have signed contracts, had problems, and are left with saying: "I thought most schools...", or "I think it would be fair if...", or "But I know someone who was enrolled at..." None of these are legal arguments for breaking a contract.

 

Yes I believe you do owe since you quit after class had already started, whether or not you showed up online really doesnt matter. I don't see how this policy is any different than any other school or even my local JC down the street if I dropped a class after 2 weeks.

 

Your are the second person that point outs in the board reference this course, could you give more details about what is wrong with it and or why the change of heart.

Thanks,

Vini

 

it isn't an online course.


Anyway, so if I receive the material and think about it for two weeks then I'm the idiot punk.

Don't go to Northcentral, You are not allowed to review the material properly to see if it sucks or not before you make a commitment.

That is wrong.

REgarding the contractual issue...no one as of yet has addressed the fact that they mislead me with the refund issue...that it is a percentage of the WHOLE course price, not what you have actually paid.

 

It is an awful, undergrad level type research class that has tasks in it like learning how to Google. Gimme a break. And I don't need to pay $1000 to learn how to footnote.


What a racket.

 

OIC, In other universities that I have study in the past and saw the structure of the course was not realistic, but still when ahead with a tap dance with the instructor to get over with. I would say that at times it is important to go back to basics to be able to undertand the hard stuff and it should be no shame or pride to that.

My first Math class in college was Basic math, which is at the high school level, taking this class again gave me a bigger understanding of math. Results of this move, Two example me which a bacame an accountant and a Friend of mine who became a University Math professor( he also took the course with me). and we both were terrible in math. Was a good move.

Thanks for the feedback!

Vini

 

Once again...
The course was $1000. $1000(.06)=$600
This is the refund you would get based on full payment.
In other words, your responsibility is $400 for the course plus a processing fee of $25.
You have paid $500, they owe you $75.

Tony

I am assuming that the information posted concerning NCU's withdrawal policy,and your statement about withdrawing in the two week period are both correct. Good luck.

 

littleFish wrote:

> Regarding the contractual issue...no one as of yet has
> addressed the fact that they mislead me with the refund
> issue...that it is a percentage of the WHOLE course price, not
> what you have actually paid.

I addressed it. Did you really expect students on a payment plan to bear less financial responsibility than students who had paid in full? If a merchant gives preferential treatment to any customer, it's usually to the customer who pays in full.

> The school is correspondence, rolling admissions, and no
> course is dependent on enrollment due to the fact that there
> are no real online classes.

In that case, they have less justification for putting such a provision in their contract than brick-and-mortar institutions where your enrolling and then withdrawing might cost them a lot of money.

PlumbDog10 wrote:

> What you have is a contractual issue. Contractual issues are
> not based on what you feel is fair, sane, or common practice;
> they are based on what is agreed to in the contract.

Legally, that is correct. When evaluating a contract, we have to think like lawyers or judges. But shouldn't we be thinking like consumers, as well? If an institution has unfair contract provisions, isn't that some slight reason to consider taking our business elsewhere?

 

I wouldn't/didn't trust them to pay in full. They've fully shown I was correct in being circumspect.

The post from myoptimism shows why they owe ME. You havenot refuted that.

The risk is too great. If anyone on this board had written they experienced this problem, I would not have enrolled.

 

I remember standing in line in the cashier's office at a local community college, talking to the fellow behind me who was outraged about the fact that, since he'd decided to withdraw from the semester after a couple of weeks, they wanted their financial aid money back. "I already spent it!"

 

Not analogous to my situation at all. Perhaps this example of poor reasoning ability is why some of you might need such a rudimentary course.

 

No, not analogous at all... the guy I met in line was a loser who couldn't figure out the basic rules of payment and finance at a community college, ended up owing money, and feeling outraged. Your situation is TOTALLY different.

 

Look, this is a correspondence course, NOT classroom, NOT online learning.

I bought a service, and never received such service.

Basic laws require that contracts actually be fulfilled. I fulfilled my cancellation within the contractual time, and due to their shysterism, end up owing money for services which I never received.

If you don't understand my dismay at such practices, then you are in the shyster category, along with the school.

1. never went to class
2. never talked to or emailed a professor
3. reviewed material
4. material unsatisfactory

EMAILED MATERIAL does not support a $500 fee.


What I received is worth little or nothing.

Tell you what: I will be happy to sell you a CD of documents for $500, sight unseen, to teach you how to do research. Even after you review the CD and find that it only teaches you how to footnote, I still get to keep your $500, okay?

 

<Homer Simpson/San Diego Dude blinks with empty stare>



That's what I thought.

 

I'd give you the $500 only if it included a box of donuts...

But seriously, the fact that you didn't take part in the class is your problem, not theirs. If they publish a schedule of refunds based on withdrawal date, the only question is whether they're following their published guidelines. The fact that you didn't like their course materials is not relevant--enrolling in college is not like buying a TV.

 

"the only question is whether they're following their published guidelines. "

They are not. See posts from myoptimism.


Thank you.

 

OK, first ou ask for the opinions, then you begin to name call when someone gives you the opinion. It is OK to disagree, but you asked for the input.

In your original posting, you said the class was 2 weeks in and you did not contact them or let them know in any way that you were not in the course. I liked the TV analogy, that would have worked for a TV, but not in the case of DL. The problem with DL courses, is that it is your reponsibility to withdraw, not the school to sign on and see if you are doing the work, then call you to see if you have dropped.

I again would say you deserve the amount of dropping the course at 2 weeks in, which is not a full refund.

You did get a service, you have the materials, and you did have the class for two week, you think that just becuase you only "test drove" that you don't owe. You mentioned the contractual obligation, that you must get a service for the fee, and I think you have one - but I do think you also don't think you got the value for the money spent, which I think is the case as well.

Let us know what happens, it will be interesting to see if they give you the refund.

 

Not that this has much to do with your situation, but thought you might find it amusing. I just signed up for some coursework with NCU. The salutation of my "welcome" letter said "Dear Justin." Problem: my name is not Justin, or anything close. If they send me a refund check made payable to littleFish I'll be sure to let you know.

 

I believe they did, Did you waited into day 14 to withdraw? It would have take me three days to know, if I have a change of heart, like I did in Upper Iowa University for one of their classes and withdraw before the class begin since on the first day tuition refund would be only 75% after first week 0%! I have corresponded with a lot of alumni from NCU and so far none have told me were disatisfied with the course, they told me it was a plus. I think the approach to NCU for their dissertation is to make you succeed. You have to remember that most people enrolling have come back to school with perhaps over 10 years since they touch a school book. Now, what other Universities have you consider?