Trump supporters like me are concerned by Biden's win. But there's still some hope.

Discussion in 'Political Discussions' started by Lerner, Nov 8, 2020.

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  1. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    From what I understood a former governor of NV, was a guest on Fox news. When I turned on the TV.
    He stated that 200,000 ballots at the minimum but possibly a much higher # didn't get manually verified as required by law.
    Signatures that were processed by 200 DPI scanning voting machines/systems are required by law to be manually verified and they weren't.

    Other GOP complains are here:
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/nevada-gop-cites-voter-fraud-claims-in-criminal-referral-to-ag-barr

    I will try to find the clip for the former governor as well.
     
  2. TeacherBelgium

    TeacherBelgium Active Member

    How realistic is it that Trump will run again for presidency in 4 years from now? He will be 78, will have been out of the spotlights for 4 years already (people forget quickly if you don't remain in the spotlights), he won't likely to be in the same shape as now (older, more fatigued most likely, less concentration etc).
    He will also be likely to not have a first lady even if he gets re-elected by then. Melania was the entire day holding the arm of a soldier on veteran's day. Maybe her new lover boy.
    So Trump would be the first president who has no first lady to move in with him by then.
    How likely is he to want to run again with all that in mind?
     
  3. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    He won't run "4 years from now." He'll run immediately after leaving office, just as he did immediately after becoming president. In fact, there are reports that he'll hold a re-election rally during Biden's inauguration.
     
  4. TeacherBelgium

    TeacherBelgium Active Member

    Yes, I read about that.
     
  5. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    It means he can begin funneling money into a political "war chest," one he can use to dole out cash to politicians he supports, as well as funnel spending into his own companies.
     
  6. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Trump's greatest political asset is his ability to turn out the Base for, or against, a Republican candidate. I'm not sure what the shelf life of that power is. It will matter in Georgia but by 2022 it might have faded a bit. We shall see.
     
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  7. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Yeah, it's a tough one to predict long-term. I think his persuasion will wane as his followers pick up on new leaders. But maybe not. After all, even Dick Nixon thought he was done after the '62 loss; 8 years later he was elected president.
     
  8. SpoonyNix

    SpoonyNix Active Member

    1. Spotlight- I don't think Trump will be out of the spotlight in 4 years, unless he's dead.
    2. Health- He probably will be in worse shape, though he could be in great shape. His choice.
    3. No spouse? Kiddin', right? That loverboy comment is cringe.

    I think maybe Buchanan and Alexander were single when they were sworn in.

    I don't doubt Trump would run if his health is good. Even just to ruffle feathers, perhaps. That, to me, would be worth it. I highly doubt I will be living in the uSA when the next prez cycle rolls around, so I don't think I'll be seeing any of it.
     
  9. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Who know maybe people will ask him to run in 2024 to fix all the mess that 4 years of left will do to the country.
    But why are we talking about 2024? Trump still fighting for 2020 and it appears to me that finally there is some solid evidence of election fraud that may get the right attention.
     
  10. TeacherBelgium

    TeacherBelgium Active Member

    Solid evidence? Where then?
    No one has seen any evidence from all those election fraud claims.
    He has arranged a '' very important meeting '' in a flowershop centre and has been tweeting about it.
    All his lawsuits except one have been turned down.
    Now he's trying to have states designating their electoral men to him, while he hasn't even won. Isn't that dictatorship?
    Isn't he '' stealing '' the elections like he accuses the democrats of?
     
  11. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    This conundrum is apparently little challenge to the doublethink crowd.
     
  12. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Yes. Stealing the election is exactly what Trump is trying to do and yes, that's the same thing as Trump trying to become a dictator. Fortunately, the President has almost nothing to do with presidential elections which are a function of state governments and Congress.
     
  13. TeacherBelgium

    TeacherBelgium Active Member

    It's awful how die hard Trump supporters would accept any and every wrong doing that comes from him.
    They see other parties' mistakes but when Mr Trump himself goes wrong, they always find reasons why he's right.
    It's so frustrating. You can't win with these people.
     
  14. TeacherBelgium

    TeacherBelgium Active Member

    Fox News added a disclaimer that Trump made unverified statements after he started to yell '' they're trying to steal the elections ''.
    Everybody was prepared for that.
    I remember here on Belgian television an Americanologist (expert in American matters) who predicted this dispute of election fraud even before people knew who it was gonna be.
    Wasn't Trump already '' predicting '' election fraud in 2018?
    Didn't Trump '' disown '' Fox News at one point for a channel that was willing to spout his nonsense without challenging him?
    You can't win with this guy.
    '' Too much and never enough '' to quote Mary Trump her very own words.

    He made me spit out my tea from laughing when he started to tweet '' vote vote vote '' when all voting offices were already closed haha.
    That's Trump in a nutshell.
     
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  15. TeacherBelgium

    TeacherBelgium Active Member

    Nobody is going to ask Trump to '' fix anyone's mess '' in 2024 when he's not even honest enough to show his tax returns.
     
  16. TeacherBelgium

    TeacherBelgium Active Member

    Something that I'm really curious about: for those of you who live in a red state but voted democratic, did you ever face harassment for mentioning it?
     
  17. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    It has never really been a good idea to discuss American politics in a social setting. Screaming fights over the Thanksgiving table are legendary. Politics is the hallmark participant sport in this country. Best advice is also old advice. Don't discuss politics or religion in public.
     
  18. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Information is programming, As I mentioned depends which perception one has.
    What sources allowed their mind to be programmed.
    And if it was the other way around you will see even worse from the Left side.
    You would have riots, the small businesses that some how still afloat due to Corona lock downs by biased Governors who cave in to big business but lock down small business.
    Their stores would be burned by the left rioters. The video of GA irregularities would be on all networks, we would know by name the names of all the poll workers, and the left mob demanding their arrest.
     
  19. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Its a good advice.
    Historically people paid dearly when they supported the loosing side. They got retaliation on different levels or complications by landing on someones list.
    Also families some times the arguments tear people a part.
     
  20. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Do you have ANY examples of this? It's an anti-historical and absurd statement.
     

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