Trump is a fascist, hates disabled veterans, and lacks empathy

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  1. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    This is all according to John Kelly, who was Trump's chief of staff. I believe him. I see no reason to doubt him when that thing has a history of publicly disrespecting veterans, making racist and xenophobic comments, making fun of people with disabilities, and threatening to use the military against the American people.

    Several of my family members served in the military, and my uncle came home from the Vietnam War disabled. Hillary Clinton was right. Anyone who can support this orange being is deplorable. I have harsher words for Drumpf and its cult.

    https://www.nytimes.com/2024/10/22/us/politics/john-kelly-trump-fitness-character.html


    The Atlantic is reporting similar things about Trump admiring dictators, especially Hitler. It uses direct quotes from Hitler's writings. With the orange rapist being obsessed with genes and kissing the behinds of authoritarians, is any of this hard to believe?

    An alleged racist comment by Trump regarding Vanessa Guillen:

    “It doesn’t cost 60,000 bucks to bury a fucking Mexican!”

    Once again, this isn't hard to believe because the draft dodger has publicly shown its disdain for Mexicans and soldiers.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2024/10/trump-military-generals-hitler/680327/

    Let's not forget that Trump's nephew has said that Trump uses the n-word and believes that people with disabilities should be euthanized. He's not the first person who's accused Trump of using the n-word. Whoever has those Apprentice tapes should release them now.

    https://abcnews.go.com/US/fred-trump-iii-calls-uncle-donald-trump-atomic/story?id=112389846
     
  2. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    Trump made a vulgar comment about late Arnold Palmer's genitalia. If Trump wins, I predict that Vance will utilize the 25th Amendment. Unlike the Democrats with Biden, Republicans are ignoring Trump's dementia until after the inauguration. Multiple people have reported that Trump has a foul odor and suffers from incontinence.

    https://www.cbsnews.com/news/donald-trump-arnold-palmer-latrobe-pennsylvania-rally/
     
  3. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Well Trump's defense is that he's far away from 80 years old. (This is a sad but truly stated extremely poor defense. This defense just demonstrates further cognitive decline.)
     
  4. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

  5. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Trump isn't bothered by veterans. He is bothered by veterans that were injured or killed, calling them suckers and losers. I'm very surprised that you weren't aware of this often repeated fact.

    Here's one tenth of the Google search results for "trump calls veterans suckers and losers". There were other incidents where Trump didn't use the exact term "suckers and losers" but I thought this might be enough for you? (Note that one of these sources is even a Fox fact check.)

    Trump: Americans Who Died in War Are ‘Losers’ and ‘Suckers’
    https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2020/09/trump-americans-who-died-at-war-are-losers-and-suckers/615997/

    John Kelly confirms Trump privately disparaged U.S. service members and veterans
    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/john-kelly-confirms-trump-privately-disparaged-us-service-members-vete-rcna118543

    Did Trump actually call veterans who died in wars ‘suckers’?
    https://thehill.com/homenews/nexstar_media_wire/4744762-did-trump-actually-call-veterans-who-died-in-wars-suckers/

    Trump veteran comments spark controversy — again

    https://www.politico.com/news/2024/08/16/trump-medal-of-honor-00174404

    Report: Trump disparaged US war dead as ‘losers,’ ‘suckers’

    https://www.militarytimes.com/news/pentagon-congress/2020/09/03/report-trump-disparaged-us-war-dead-as-losers-suckers/


    Fact-checking the Biden-Trump 'suckers and losers' quote
    https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/fact-check-biden-trump-suckers-losers-quote

    Trump Faces Fallout From Report He Calls Military 'Losers' And 'Suckers'
    https://www.npr.org/2020/09/04/909599762/trump-faces-fallout-from-report-he-calls-military-losers-and-suckers





     
  6. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Sayings are really unacceptible, especially from someone who is running for the highest US Office.
    But for some people, especially Veterans actions speak louder then words.
    I wasn't aware of these sayings.
    I only remeber one about POWs, that had todo with the late Sr from Arizona MCcain.
     
  7. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Looking at the website you posted a link to. It is apparently a Trump Campaign webpage. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
     
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  8. jrdamien

    jrdamien New Member

    The disrespect towards veterans and marginalized groups is just unacceptable. It’s like he keeps proving the worst stereotypes about him true. Honestly, it’s frustrating to think about how many people turn a blind eye to all this.
     
  9. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    What choice is there to the American voters who don't agree with Dems policies, on important issues want GOP to be majority in both houses?
    Voters don't have another option, it's Trump or Harris.
    I estimate many GOP voters will vote for GOP candidate no matter who she or he is, because of the issues and tehir view of future of the country.
    As in any elections there are undescided voters on both sides.
    In the past some voted Independent.
     
  10. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    LOL. You can't trust "facts" on a Trump website. He lies and exaggerates every time he opens his mouth.

    Most White military members do tend to vote Republican, but most White people, in general, vote Republican. Only 11% of Black military veterans identify as or lean Republican.

    https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2024/09/30/military-veterans-remain-a-republican-group-backing-trump-over-harris-by-wide-margin/
     
  11. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    Trump is a RINO with a cult. Voting for a woman beating rapist and felon who idolizes Hitler just because he's offering tax breaks shows that the voter is morally bankrupt and does not value democracy. Slapping tariffs on everything is not a free market policy. It's an isolationist and populist policy.

    Twenty-four years ago, Ivana Trump said that Trump idolizes Hitler. This is the guy who was fined for discriminating against Black and Hispanic people in housing and for discriminating against a Black employee. Racism, fascism, and sexual predation should be a deal breaker for anyone with a conscience.
     
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  12. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Getting back to the Trump webpage, It is obviously a Trump webpage based on the little that is on it. Everything about the webpage is Trump centric. There is ZERO information about any veteran group the page pretends to present. But probably the biggest give away is the teeny tiny print at the bottom of the webpage that says:


    Paid for by Donald J Trump for President 2024, Inc.
     
  13. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    Correction: Thirty-four years ago, Ivana said that Trump idolizes Hitler. He kept Hitler quotes next to his bed.

    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/politics/trump-says-he-didnt-know-his-immigration-rhetoric-echoes-hitler-thats-part-of-a-broader-pattern
     
  14. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    The elections in the US is not about a coronation of a ruler or a king.
    It's more than Trump or Harris.
    As mutch as people are trying to make it in to some sporting event between two heavy weights champions, it's not just about them.
    Indeed President has a lot of power but
    what people will vote on, are the issues and wich direction the country will be taken in the future.
    Yea, electing the leader has high stakes.
    But it's more than just voting for a leader.
    I'm a concervative but to me, in my view President Biden was a good President.
    I prefer concervative center leadership.
    For ever it worth Democrat Moderates to Concervatives have my blessing.
    GOP Moderates Concervatives have my blessing.
    As to attacks on candidates, alot of dirt is being circulating.
    If one has to judge, Judge them by their fruits.
    Racist candidates should be disqualified.
    But not based on hear and say.
    Dems ask why people ignore allegations, the reply is that people got fed up with years of what some call a witch hunt, it's like a story about a boy who cried wolf.
     
  15. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    Losing two discrimination cases is not hearsay, and the words Trump publicly speaks are racist. If he were like LBJ, it might be something that could be ignored, but LBJ also lived in a different time. Trump's eugenicist views are unacceptable in the 21st Century. Individual character matters when the candidate tells thousands of lies, wants to use the military on protesters, wants to take away the licenses of media companies he dislikes, wants to give full immunity to police officers who commit crimes, and wants to suspend the Constitution.

    What did Trump accomplish other than appoint a lot of conservative judges? He didn't build the wall with Mexico's money. He didn't repeal and replace Obamacare. He didn't deport that many undocumented immigrants in comparison to Obama and Biden. Prior to the COVID lockdowns, the violent crime rate was rising. The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act gave permanent tax cuts to the wealthy and temporary tax cuts to everyone else. Those tax cuts expire next year. He got withholdings decreased to give people the impression that taxes were decreased more than they were. At the same time, he eliminated a lot of itemized deductions that help the self-employed and small businesses.

    He did accomplish getting Roe v Wade overturned, but abortions have increased. In the states where people can vote on laws, they've voted against abortion bans every time. In Texas, we don't have the privilege of voting to repeal a law. Our legislature, which gerrymandered the hell out of the state, has to put a constitutional amendment on the ballot. They're not going to do that. Maternal mortality has increased by 56%, and they don't not care. The Republican Party is not saving babies; they're just killing more women.

    Trump signed the First Step Act, which was good even though it doesn't have much impact on the incarceration rate, but that was a Democratic bill that was being held up by Republicans in Congress.
     
  16. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    What John Kelly said about Trump is not "hearsay." In a court it would be considered direct testimony since he's testifying to what he actually saw and heard. Now, if he observed Trump, then told an aide, and then that aide told the story, THAT would be hearsay. That's because one cannot determine the credibility of the story because it's changed hands.

    Kelly heard Trump say those things and now he telling us. The question is whether you believe Kelly or Trump.
     
  17. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    I most definitely believe General Kelly over the scam artist, pathological liar, woman beater, and draft dodger who famously disrespected John McCain for being a POW.
     
  18. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    What I was trying to communicate is that in my opinion due to all the Trump attacks since 2015, the special prosecutor and the Russia collision, Russian Spy. Impeachment etc.
    It got to a saturation point where anything against Trump is seen as witch hunt. As I said a boy who cried wolf.
    A lot of issues raised in this tread were unknown to me.
    After Jan 6th, events I distance myself from candidates who's are to the far right of Center moderate Concervatives.
     
  19. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Getting back to the title of the thread, "Trump is a fascist, hates disabled veterans, and lacks empathy". The lacking empathy trait is a well known part of Narcissistic Personality Disorder NPD. If one is at all familiar with what NPD is then it should be obvious to them that Trump has NPD. A couple of books were written on Trump having NPD by psychologists. Here's one with 27 authors that are experts on the subject.
    The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump: 27 Psychiatrists and Mental Health Experts Assess a President

    https://a.co/d/1gXQFbO
     
    Last edited: Oct 27, 2024
  20. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    If you want to buy the book, here's a more recent edition.
    The More Dangerous Case of Donald Trump: 40 Psychiatrists and Mental Health Experts Warn Anew
    https://a.co/d/fBcYLBA
     

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