Trinity C & U

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  1. John Bear

    John Bear Senior Member

    I thought Jack's letter was wonderful.

    And it is hard for me to believe that someone with a 3-digit IQ could have written the response attributed to Mr. Hayes.

    John Bear
     
  2. Jack Tracey

    Jack Tracey New Member

    If that's your best shot then I've clearly proven my point. You have no defense of your degree. It's sad, really.
    Jack
     
  3. fnhayes

    fnhayes New Member

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    Rich
    Your obsession with degree mills is very unhealthy, tiresome, boring, negative and meaningless. And possibly a decoy for your own degree mill activities?
    I'm sure that many will agree that you are also ready to follow Jack into the psychiatric unit!
    Dr Anatidae
     
  4. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

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    That's bull. I've never been involved with a degree mill. I've had activities with two unaccredited schools, both in their start-up phases. My work with Greenwich, supervised by John, was about 15 years ago, when we were trying to build a school. My work with VIU--hardly a degree mill--has been an effort to prepare them for their bid for accreditation. MIGS was never accredited, nor unaccredited. Nor did it ever award degrees.

    I'm pleased with my work with Greenwich--I learned a lot about the rigors of establishing a school. My work with VIU has allowed me to guide students from all over the world and to help a new school get established. And, while MIGS was a disappointment, we all learned a great deal from it. I'm ashamed of none of these. That's called "balance."

    This nonsense--calling Jack and I fit for psychiatric care--is outrageous. I've restricted my comments about you to your claim of a doctorate from a diploma mill. Nothing personal, of course. Just a simple fact: you claim a doctorate from a diploma mill. This is the same as telling a lie about your education. The nonsense you've offered in return is just icing on that cake.
     
  5. MarkIsrael@aol.com

    [email protected] New Member

    FNHayes writes:

    > Your obsession with degree mills is very unhealthy,
    > tiresome, boring, negative and meaningless.


    Knowledge of mills is necessary to protect the value of real degrees, especially distance degrees.

    Have you noticed how, in news reports on mills, the same names keep cropping up (John Bear, Allen Ezell, Alan Contreras, George Gollin, Jeffrey Brunton, Susan Collins)? There are very few degree mill experts in the world. Too little obsession, not too much.

    > And possibly a decoy for your own degree mill activities?
    > I'm sure that many will agree that you are also ready to follow
    > Jack into the psychiatric unit!


    Oh dear, I expect the moderators will shortly ban you. I've enjoyed knowing you.
     
  6. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

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    Dr. Hayes, you're the only one around here that's just making personal insults.

    I've said it before and I'll say it again. You're an academic fraud, plain and simple. If it makes you uncomfortable to be an academic fraud then I suggest that it would be best to simply stop claiming a bogus degree. If you don't respect yourself enough to face the truth then the next best option would be to stop your silly personal attacks against people that speak the truth.:confused:
     
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  7. oxpecker

    oxpecker New Member

    Other people quoted more than once or twice include George Brown, Steve Levicoff, and Rich Douglas.
     
  8. oxpecker

    oxpecker New Member

    FARIDAH 'DIDN'T NEED' THE $$

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    • In the scam, Ali, 55, and her children, Lakiha "KiKi" Spicer, 28, and Azheem "Osh" Spicer, 30, were convicted on Oct. 27 on multiple federal fraud counts, theft and conspiracy. Lakiha was also convicted of lying to a federal grand jury.

      ...

      Instead of providing "real teachers and real classes" to help people earn a GED, job skills or learn English as a second language, the Ali family paid bills with the money, the memo stated. Ironically, Ali obtained a GED in the 1970s, but she bought a phony doctorate from Trinity College University, a "diploma mill" on the Internet, despite never having graduated from an accredited college, according to the memo. Lakiha, obtained an MBA from the same diploma mill in 2001, Lakiha's sentencing memo stated.
     
  9. oxpecker

    oxpecker New Member

    CONVICTED OF 26 COUNTS, FARIDAH ALI GETS OFF EASY

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    • You can lie. You can steal. You can forge documents. You can talk on the phone about it with the FBI listening.

      You can even get convicted of all 26 counts in the scam, including mail fraud, wire fraud and theft.

      And this is what you get in federal court: probation.
     
  10. uncle janko

    uncle janko member

    What's the problem?

    Well, it's not like she was in hospice care and her husband wanted her dead.
     
  11. decimon

    decimon Well-Known Member

    But unlike Martha Stewart, no fibs to the Fibbies. The art of lies.
     

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