Transfer friendly universities

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by johntrader, Sep 7, 2012.

  1. johntrader

    johntrader New Member

    Hello everyone,

    I am an Ashford University student, based on what happened recently with the accreditation issues, I have decided to transfer out. The problem is that I was completing the bachelors of business admin and had 80 credits. When I applied to ASU I got accepted but they only transferred 30 of my 80 credits. Would anyone happen to know a transfer friendly university that does not have proctored exams? The reason I am asking this is because I am usually travelling several times during the month for my job and wouldn't have time to arrange those. Money is not an issue (no budget).

    Thank you everyone.
  2. Fjaysay

    Fjaysay New Member

    Was there a reason why ASU only accept 30 out of 80? Was it because of the business accreditation difference?

    I have heard that Liberty University was a transfer friendly university. My friends transferred there from UoP after their potential employers would not accept their degree from UoP.
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  3. Shawn Ambrose

    Shawn Ambrose New Member

    Charter Oak State College
    Thomas Edison State College
    Excelsior College

    "Aka the Big 3 of Distance Learning."

    BTW - I believe you are making a good move. Good luck!
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  4. SurfDoctor

    SurfDoctor Moderator

    Yes, I agree with Shawn. Those are your best choices. All good, regionally accredited schools that offer degrees relatively inexpensively.
  5. johntrader

    johntrader New Member

    But aren't these colleges? Isn't it better to go to a university? How is there transfer policy? I am leaning towards Thomas Edison College, would I finish my degree faster there? What is the meaning of "big 3"?

    Would you know of any universities that are a little more prestigious?
  6. NMTTD

    NMTTD Active Member

    The more prestigious universities likely will have their business programs accredited, and Ashford doesn't. So that may be why your classes aren't transferring over. Sounds like ASU took the amount you need to fill the free electives but won't take anymore because Ashford's business program lacks the appropriate accreditation for the rest of the classes to apply to ASU's business program. I'm thinking you're going to find that at other big name schools, as well. So you may do better going to one of the "big 3".
  7. Fjaysay

    Fjaysay New Member

    When you transferred to ASU, did they take most of your credits? Just curious how these credit transfer works.

    Also, being told that the big 3 will most likely take any transfer credits, is that why people usually recommend these big 3 colleges?
  8. CalDog

    CalDog New Member

    Technically, Ashford does have accredited business programs. However, your basic point may be correct: it may not be the right kind of business accreditation for Arizona State.

    There are three prominent business accreditation agencies in the US: AACSB, ACBSP, and IACBE. AACSB is the most prestigious; ACBSP and IACBE, while legitimate, are less prestigous. Furthermore, some schools don't have any business-specific accreditation, which is also OK as long as they have regional accreditation for the institution as a whole.

    Most of the largest and best-known business schools, including Arizona State, are accredited by AACSB. They may not be inclined to accept credits from business schools that are accredited by ACBSP or IACBE.

    Ashford's business program is accredited by IACBE. So their credits are more likely to transfer to other IACBE schools, or maybe ACBSP schools. They are less likely to transfer to AACSB schools, like Arizona State.

    Of the Big Three, Excelsior has IACBE, while COSC and TESC have no business accreditation. They should not have any accreditation issues with Ashford credits.
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  9. SurfDoctor

    SurfDoctor Moderator

    "Big 3" is a term that is used on Degree Info, maybe other places too, to indicate Excelsior, TESC and COSC. They are called the big three because they are some of the original and best known online schools that have large enrollments.

    I wouldn't worry about the semantics of "university" vs. "college" it's not that big of an issue. According to CalDog, a person who's opinion I respect, Excelsior has IACBE accreditation where the other two have no extra business accreditation, even though they are all regionally accredited which makes them all good. Therefore, of the big 3, Excelsior might be better for a business degree. Though IACBE is a lower accreditation than AACSB and ACBSP, it is still a respectable accreditation.
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  10. AV8R

    AV8R Active Member

    Charter Oak, Excelsior, and Thomas Edison are excellent options. As previously mentioned, you might want to talk to someone from Liberty University too since they accept a lot of transfer credit.
  11. TEKMAN

    TEKMAN Semper Fi!

    Another school is Troy University; they are willing to accept up to 90 credits. I was able to transferred up to 60 credits from non-traditional courses (i.e: CLEP, DANTES, and Military Training). The used to have proctor exam on selective courses; however, I have heard recently they do require proctor exam (ProctorU). ProctorU can be taken exam anywhere.... So you have to check with them on that. Troy University's Business program is accredited by ACBSP (Accreditation Councils for Business Schools and Programs).
  12. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    I'll simply chime in to say that the Big Three are, above all, degree completion colleges. If you just want to get your degree over with, they are the best choices that exist anywhere. There are certainly other options. You have 80 credits. Most schools have a policy of accepting 90 credits toward a Bachelor's (in more traditional terms, this would be a "senior transfer"). Other than the Big 3, I would also offer Columbia College (of Missouri. There is actually more than one Columbia College and a certain Columbia University I'm sure we are all aware of). They accept in transfer all but the last 24 credits toward a degree from them. One of the best policies anywhere outside of the Big Three. They are also inexpensive, relatively speaking.
  13. NMTTD

    NMTTD Active Member

    Thank you for being specific on this. I tried, but I didn't know there were 3 kinds of business accreditation. lol Anyway, I'm thinking that's the problem. I'm guessing ASU only allowed enough credits from the lower business accreditation classes to fill electives but wouldn't take them for the actual business classes.
  14. mbaonline

    mbaonline New Member

    No direct experience but have you looked at the state universities in the state in which you reside? Many have online programs now, and you may be tranferring in like many community college students do after getting an AA degree. Or you could actually get an AA degree at a local CC that has an articulation agreement with the State U.

    Perhaps Bellevue University - many here have had good experiences there: Undergraduate Admissions | Bellevue University

    Or American Public University American Public University System - Official Site - 877-755-2787
  15. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    Don't get hung-up on college vs. university......Dartmouth College and Amherst College have done just fine with the "college" moniker.
  16. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    They do not all have large enrollments, Charter Oak State College is actually fairly small. They're the "big three" because they're the three regionally accredited schools with the most liberal transfer credit policies.

    I recommend Charter Oak in part because of this policy (it worked well for me) but also because it has top notch customer service. They're quick to respond and eager to help, and when you're working with your school from afar this is important. (It's also why I'm on the Alumni Association Board, I wanted to be stay affiliated with an organization like Charter Oak.)

    "College" vs. "university" is a non-issue. No one will care.

    Similarly, no one in the real world will care about ACBSP or IACBE. Even AACSB is important primarily just for Master's and doctoral students who want to go on for business school faculty positions.
  17. Randell1234

    Randell1234 Moderator

    I thought it was because they had big names:
    Charter Oak State College
    Thomas Edison State College
    Excelsior College formerly known as The University of the State of New York or something like that

  18. johntrader

    johntrader New Member

    I am really considering transferring to charter oak. Which one would you most recommend for a business degree? Also graduating from one of these schools would I have any issues getting accepted into one of the brick and mortar universities MBA programs?

    How are the semesters structured? I used to take 2 courses every 5 weeks at Ashford and would you say all my credits would be transferred to one of these school's?

    Thank you very much.
  19. johntrader

    johntrader New Member

    Also I am considering brandman/chapman university, are they a transfer friendly university and how are the classes structured there?
  20. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    I don't know about business, but I got into a top Master's program in my field (educational technology) based on my Bachelor's from Charter Oak.

    I'm not sure. I think they had eight week terms when I was a student there, but that was long enough ago that my info there is pretty stale. One thing you can do if you see short courses at another school that you like is take courses at other schools and transfer them to Charter Oak -- yes, even while you're a Charter Oak student. I did that because I was able to take a relevant course for free at the school where I worked.

    Without looking at your transcripts one can't say for sure, but it's likely it would all go in -- all of mine did. Whatever didn't fit into my program just used up electives, which was fine.

    If I were you, I'd just call their admissions department and talk to them to get your answers from the horse's mouth. They're known for being very helpful to inquirers, and they won't harass you to make a decision like those marketing-driven schools do.

    Good luck!
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