Touro Vs NCU

I pulled my e-mails and have spoken to this program as well. They are not AACSB, since the program is not in business, but technology (which is more like IS).

Here is the quote from their website -

In 1998, the School of Technology received approval from the Indiana Commission for Higher Education to offer a Consortium PhD in Technology Management.

 

I doubt that doctoral programs from AACSB schools require AACSB accreditation. But you have a point. It appears that Indiana State University's Ph.D in Technology Management is not being offered through the school of business. In that case, lack of AACSB accreditation is not necessarily a drawback because the degree does not require any professional accreditation.

 

That is true, except when you go for a teaching position, you have to have a business degree that is AACSB accredited. Since most people do not have a technology department, it will limit teaching oppotunities.

 

Kristie7, I can’t help but to wonder if you might be overemphasizing the need for an AACSB accredited degree. AACSB accreditation is only applicable for business and accounting degree programs and would only matter if you were going to apply for a faculty position at a business or accounting school. If that is your specific plan then you should also concern yourself with the reputation of the school you are considering. Competitive faculty positions often place great emphasis on the caliber of graduate education you completed, including your school’s academic reputation.

I would suggest that if your main goal is to teach for a business or accounting school then you may not want to limit yourself to a DL program because you will want to be published and graduate from a “name brand” business school (e.g., Wharton, Chicago, etc.), which will of course be AACSB accredited.

However, if you just want the option to teach something of interest to you at the university level, there’s no need to be overly concerned with AACSB accreditation. If you’re considering any non-business degree programs, AACSB accreditation isn’t even a consideration. I teach part time (adjunct faculty) at George Washington University for their Emergency Health Services program. No one there cares if my MBA is AACBS accredited. It would only matter (possibly) if I were to apply for a position at GW’s School of Business and Public Management. So the importance of AACSB accreditation for you, all depends on how likely you are to desire teaching business or accounting in the future.

Finally, since you mentioned Touro already, you should consider that they are IACBE accredited. (The International Assembly of Collegiate Business Education is another national accreditation for business schools.) While IACBE is a notch below AACSB, it seems likely that if Touro made the effort to become IACBE accredited, they will likely put forth real effort to become AACSB accredited as well.

 

Steve - Thanks for the info. Yes, I do want to teach in a Business School, and have met with the Dean - AACSB is the only options, can't even get through screening for an interview without one. Unfortunately I am in the Sacramento area, where NO AACSB Doctoral programs exist. The closest is Berkley (3-4 hours away).

I could relocate for a short time, or travel each semester, but perm. relocation is not an option (which is making life REALLY difficult).

The community colleges don't require a PhD, so maybe I will start there, and see what happens.

 

How are the doctoral degrees from universities like University of Southern Queensland considered for teching?

 

Take a look at the AACSB web site that lists schools by location. You actually have three other potential choices - UC Davis and UoP (not Phoenix the real UoP) and Sac State.

 

Ike, landsmann : Clark Atlanta offers the famous/infamous doctor of arts DA in modern languages and perhaps some other fields. If only they offered it via DL!

 

I did my undergrad at Sac Stat - there is no PhD program.

Davis is only MBA!

UoP I will look into, but are they AACSB accredited?

 

University of the Pacific.... MBA only.... no doctorate study....

See what I mean about problems with the website????

 

Steve, You said below

"Finally, since you mentioned Touro already, you should consider that they are IACBE accredited."

I went on their site and they are only Midlle States RA - can you clirfy, or send me a link?

 

Try the link below. Click "Membership" and then "Member Listing". Touro is listed.

http://www.iacbe.org

 

IACBE Strength?

I was wondering the prestige or strength of the IACBE accreditation. Is it well thought of in the academic business circles? Does this help TUI Business Dept. in its appearance to academia? Thanks

Ed

 

Something is strange, why wouldn't Touro have it in their accredited page of their site?

 

IACBE

I am not convinced that IACBE adds any value to Touro.

 

All of these business program accreditation standards like AACSB, IACBE, and ACBSP are comparitively minor when compared to whether or not a school is accredited regionally, by DETC, or some worthless fake accreditation. Regional accreditation or DETC accreditation are the only things that are going to matter when trying to transfer credits to another university. There are the only things that matter when trying to have your degree accepted by the U.S. government or military. Often, they are the only accreditation that matters for many businesses and universities.

The interest in having a degree also accredited by AACSB, or any of the other program-specific accreditation agencies, is less common. Yes, AACSB accreditation is sometime required for business school faculty positions; but that won't be the only thing they'll require of a candidate. Going to an AACSB accredited school certainly won't be enough, it's just a way to reduce the number of applications they have to read. You'll likely have to go to a top school to get the job if they require AACSB accreditation. APA accreditation is sometimes required for psychology school faculty positions. ABA and AMA accreditation are the only two, that I can think of, required for licensure (although there are ways around them).

My guess is that Touro doesn't think people are too concerned with finding a school that is IACBE or ACBSP accredited. I suspect that most people are only interested in the more significant accreditation standards -- regional or DETC. Everything else is either fake (like the kind diploma mills put on their web pages) or icing on the cake (like these program-specific accreditation standards). We'll see if Touro adds AACSB accreditation to their web page when they receive it.

 

Is Touro actively working towards AACSB accreditation or just the AACSB membership?

 

Yes, they are actively pursuing AACSB accreditation. I think it was mentioned in another thread on this board. They were waiting for their first PhD student to graduate from the College of Business Administration; and that just occurred recently.

 

According to the AACSB web site, Touro is not a member institution. A few institutions that =are= members (although not accredited) include UoP, City U, Keller, GGU, Nova.

Wouldn't you think if an institution were serious about AACSB accreditation it would become a member first?

 

Looking at some of the previous messages in this thread, it's clear that the AACSB website can be very inaccurate. With that said, I was told by Touro today that they were waiting to graduate their first PhD student in the College of Business Administration before they began the process. They made it sound as if they were just starting the process of accreditation.

In answer to your question, I have not idea. Is it important to pay annual dues to be a "member" of the AACSB if it doesn't really mean anything? Beats me.