Thoughts on my next step, if one needed

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  1. MarylandScorpio

    MarylandScorpio New Member

    Almost 10 years ago I enrolled, studied and obtained a PhD from a CHED accredited school in Philippines. It also had the seal of World Education Services included in the diploma and CHED diploma with transcript. Since then the school (after I graduated) lost accreditation and has closed. My degree has been accepted by institutions for its World Education Services seal but still I’m sure there are question regarding international education.

    My thought was to study and fortify my education with achieving another Doctorate to compliment from a reputable institution. Being older, and employed already in higher education I’m not sure its worth the trouble and money.

    I applied and was accepted by Taras Shevchenko National Open University. Any thoughts on this other extension school? Thank you appreciate your thoughts on next step, if any, I should take

    David
     
  2. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

  3. Steve Levicoff

    Steve Levicoff Well-Known Member

    I see that you're based in Baltimore now. Were you in the States, or in the Philippines, when you earned your doctorate? And, in what field is your doctorate?
     
  4. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    I confess that I do not fully understand the importance of a WES “seal.” Why not just name your school?
     
  5. MarylandScorpio

    MarylandScorpio New Member

    I was in theUnited States when I was enrolled in the school and travelled to Philippines several times to participate in cohort seminars
     
  6. MarylandScorpio

    MarylandScorpio New Member

    The "WES" stands for World Education Services. They are used to evaluate and advocate for the recognition of international education qualifications for employment opportunties
     
  7. Steve Levicoff

    Steve Levicoff Well-Known Member

    I sense bullshit here. When one is asked for the name of his alma mater and the field of study on his doctorate and refuses to provide them, it is more than the mere desire to remain anonymous (disclosure of either fact would not blow open your identity by any means).

    As you have hopefully seen, we have many inquiries from Americans who ask about foreign degrees, especially from schools in South Africa, India, and Europe. But not the Philippines. Not that there are not good schools in the Philippines - one of my best friends has earned two degrees from each of the University of Manila and the University of Guam. But he is ethnically Filipino. Assuming you are not, why would you have chosen to earn your first doctorate from a school in the Philippines? Especially a school that was shaky enough to lose its accreditation?

    One thing is obvious: Your original doctorate from a shady school has come back to bite you in the ass. And you are now thinking of doing a second doctorate, again foreign, at Taras Shevchenko? Granted, TSNOU is a more well-established university that does not seem to be in jeopardy in terms of its status, but it still means years of study on another foreign degree.

    My take: If your original doctoral alma mater was, in fact, legitimately accredited at the time you attended and graduated, accept the fact that you have a legitimate doctoral degree, that you have been lucky enough to work in the field of higher education, and give it a rest. If you're here merely to look for absolution for making another ridiculous decision regarding your own higher education, you're nuts. Charming, I'm sure, but nuts.

    Now, let's try again: From what school, as Kizmet asked, did you earn your original doctorate? And in what field of study? If you can't answer those, you're a chickenshit. Have a nice day.
     
  8. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

  9. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    1) WES provides education credential evaluation services. I have never heard of it affixing "seals" on foreign diplomas; kind of does not make sense.
    2) TSNOU was a scam that roped in someone in the legitimate TSNU (or is it TSKNU?). I'm pretty sure "Open University" is defunct now.
     
  10. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    Theory: MarylandScorpio is prof. al Souleiman. He has some blank TSNOU diplomas he wants to sell, and the fact that threads on this forum critical to the school come up high in Google search is an inconvenience. He tries to replace those with more positive, or at least confusing, pages to show up in Google search.

    When old TSNOU page was still up, the text was confusing - but even their own writeup confirmed that TSNOU diplomas didn't have the same standing as mainstream TSNU ones. That was enough to stay away. Even though Shevchenko U. is, indeed, a good school, #1 in its country (even if I don't particularly want to admit it, as I'm a graduate of rival Kyiv Polytechnic U.).

    If someone want to attend a semi-official online extension of a real Ukrainian university, one could do worse than Master's in Ecumenical Studies from Ukrainian Catholic University http://www.iesdistance.org.ua . At least this one is real.
     
  11. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator

    Thank you for understanding my issue with the op’s use of this term
     

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