The Presidential Contest Ended Last Night A Veteran Democratic Consultant Said

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  1. Garp

    Garp Well-Known Member

  2. Vicki

    Vicki Well-Known Member

    There is no way I would ever vote for Donald Trump. While I never condone violence, he is still a despicable human being who does not deserve to be in office. That hasn't suddenly changed just because some lunatic decided to take a shot at him.
     
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  3. Garp

    Garp Well-Known Member

    There are people like you who vote Democrat no matter what and or hate Donald Trump. You are not likely to change your mind. In the area I live in Satan could run on the Democratic party ticket and as long as he had the D after his name Jesus couldn't win running for the Republican Party.

    They are after a vast swath undecided the voters or those on the edge who don't have confidence that Joe Biden is up to the job. And to energize Independents, Republicans, and so on.
     
  4. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Three and half months is a lot of time.
    A lot can happen in the next few months.
     
  5. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    A registered Republican tried to murder a former president. I'm not sure how the Democrats are affected by this.
     
  6. Garp

    Garp Well-Known Member

    Being "registered" is meaningless in general and meaningless at 20. He also donated to a progressive left-leaning PAC.

    In the US, many people resident in areas where one party wins often register in the dominant party in order to have a say so in who governs them. Then in the actual election they vote for the party they actually associate with.
     
  7. Suss

    Suss Active Member

    Democrats would never allow Satan on their primary ballot.

    That's one of the issues: It's not about Democrats "hating" Trump, as much as it is that they recognize from Trump's statements, actions, and behaviors (including behaviors that have led to his indictments, massive civil judgements, and now, official status as a convicted felon) that he is unfit for many appointments /occupations--including as president of the United States of America. Republicans, many of them, and a handful of Independents seem to have difficulty with the concept of "unfit."


    (Edited to fix multiple formatting issues.)
     
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  8. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Musk fully endorses Trump after rally shooting
    The SpaceX CEO offered his complete endorsement for Trump following the Saturday assassination attempt at a rally in Butler, Pennsylvania.
    "I fully endorse President Trump and hope for his rapid recovery," Musk wrote on X Saturday while sharing a video of the moment after a bullet struck his right ear.

    https://www.yahoo.com/news/elon-musk-donate-45-million-023238442.html
     
  9. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    First, that report has not been verified. The AP reported it, but hasn't followed up on claims that the donation was made by another person.

    Second, that donation (15 whole dollars!) was made 3 years ago. A lot can change in that time.

    Third, he was a registered Republican voter. You can dismiss it as unimportant, but that changes nothing. He sure wasn't a Democrat.

    Finally, he was wearing a Demolition Ranch t-shirt, a YouTube channel for weapons enthusiasts, hardly the uniform of someone NOT a fanatic from the right wing.

    Donald Trump was targeted for assassination by a Republican. Instead of denying it, it might be a good idea to figure out why.
     
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  10. Garp

    Garp Well-Known Member

    You dismiss his donation to a leftist cause as minimal and therefore meaningless and his registration as of utter determinative importance. That seems more like you are emotionally invested in him being Republican.

    He was 20 (his prefrontal cortex isn't even fully developed) and people are acting as if he had a lifelong and well thought out political history.

    Second, I frequently Register for a political party to vote in their Primary. I am not a believer or supporter of that party. I vote the opposite generally. It is just that I live in an area where one party gets elected and people vote straight ticket. Satan could run for the party and be elected. I want some say so in who is representing me. So you could pull my voter registration card and would say "nope he is x because it says so on his registration card". Meaningless without context and I know many people who do the same thing.

    Wait for facts to come in and context.
     
  11. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

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  12. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    I get it that it's tempting for people to say "The shooter was a Republican!" or "The shooter was a Democrat!" but neither of these factoids is meaningful in this context. And it's not like we can ask him.
     
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  13. Vicki

    Vicki Well-Known Member

    I don’t vote Democrat “no matter what”. I will for now because Trump has too much control over the Republican Party. He is a danger to our society with his selfish ways and his hateful rhetoric. He demonizes anyone who disagrees with him. This is me choosing NOT to vote for satan on the republican ticket. I don’t have full confidence in Biden, however, he is not evil and selfish like Trump.

    PS - currently married to a Trump supporter. o_O
     
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  14. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    One potential use: by clearly establishing that he was a Republican, we can remove politics from the incident, as this would not be a motivator. We can, but we won't.
     
  15. Garp

    Garp Well-Known Member

    And of course him registering as a Republican doesn't mean much as I established (unless new evidence proves otherwise).
     
  16. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    US received intel of Iranian plot to assassinate Trump. CNN reports
     
  17. Garp

    Garp Well-Known Member

    Interesting. I can see the GOP using this. There was already this narrative out there that because Biden is weak countries are acting up and not taking the US seriously. This will likely be used to feed that narrative in that it could be indicative that Iran is scared of President Trump getting elected.
     

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