The Continents State University

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  1. Degree_Investigator

    Degree_Investigator New Member

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  2. Dustin

    Dustin Well-Known Member

  3. LearningAddict

    LearningAddict Well-Known Member

    ... and it appears they've changed the name back to the original, lol. You just can't save everybody.

    They're better off getting state recognition and sticking with that until they can become legitimately accredited.
     
  4. tengo_ma

    tengo_ma New Member

    I spoke to the Florida Department of Education, and it appears to be this university does have secular authorization in process with the Florida Department of Education and they are seeking accreditation through DEAC. They seem to be legitimate universities. They had issues with the name and this is what's taking them too long to get their approval. They are putting a lot of effort to keep their name with the state. I believe they are a ligament university.
     
  5. LearningAddict

    LearningAddict Well-Known Member

    I don't consider a school as seeking accreditation until they're on the consideration list of an accreditor. Many have said over the years they were seeking only to never even be under consideration as a result of not actually going through with filing.
     
  6. tengo_ma

    tengo_ma New Member

    Well, while I agree with you. I disagree with the fact that is DEAC requires all schools to be in operation for 2 years with the same ownership and a school must graduate their first degree before DEAC can add them to the accreditation consideration list.
    https://www.deac.org/Seeking-Accreditation/Eligibility-Requirements.aspx
     
  7. tengo_ma

    tengo_ma New Member

    Plus there are too many schools in Florida that are licensed but not accredited like Ambra University, Agape University, Aden University. Based on what I understood from the conversation with them, Florida Dep. of Ed. review their schools intensively and in-depth, and this is what makes the state not requiring their universities to be accredited. State-wise this school is going to be recognized without doubting its efforts.
     
  8. Viktoria

    Viktoria Member

    I also just came across this University. Looks like still not accredited 3 years later....
     
  9. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    It is, actually - but by UK's ASIC International. ASIC has no remit outside UK and its accreditation has nothing to do with degree granting there - and certainly not anywhere else. ASIC says this themselves, on their page - and they tell every school. Yes, they accredit schools, but not in the US sense. Schools with only ASIC Accreditation certainly don't get a key to the Title IV funding room or anything else that would give their degrees any legitimacy or standing. An ASIC-accredited school that grants degrees, does so on whatever degree-granting authority it has been given by education authorities in its own country. In this case - a Florida license, i.e.none, except basic legality. Nobody goes to jail. There is some more stuff about memberships and being "approved" by OTHM in UK. None of it adds up to degree granting with any standing by this school. I'm not sure exactly what OTHM is approving and their certificate doesn't say. But I'm pretty sure it's not degrees. They don't do that.

    Google: Who is OTHM? We are a global provider in awarding British qualifications. We have a network of numerous delivery centres globally to deliver our qualifications. OTHM is an established and recognised Awarding Organisation (Certification Body) launched in 2003 as a not-for-profit organisation.

    Like I said - no mention of degrees. NTJ - not their job. I can think of about six good reasons to avoid this school. One is that it's located in DeSantisland. Another I've just discussed here. You don't need to hear the other four.
     
  10. AsianStew

    AsianStew Moderator Staff Member

    Hmm, interesting turn of events indeed, but it's still unclear how things work, someone should email them... *IF* their classes all have the OTHM authorization, that translates to OfQual UK qualification of a Level 7 Diploma (not a degree by itself), this will translate to transfer credits elsewhere by AICE or NACES members. A level 7 diploma from the UK is equivalent to 30 grad credits US, and getting that for $1K is a very good deal indeed!
     
  11. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    If-If- If. I don't like that. It's....iffy.

    From their own blurb, you study there and they hand you a DEGREE from THEIR Florida outfit. OK - it's legal. But nothing else. They claim ASIC accreditation, which is meaningless in US academic terms. I think that like ASIC, they've got OTHM for window-dressing. OTHM does not award degrees - nor does its approval make this school accredited in our usual sense -- or its degrees

    My advice - go earn a degree that makes sense. This if-if-if doesn't. I don't know where you're going to get a recognized degree for $1,000 - but you can get one from a DEAC school for around twice that. Call Newlane or Next. Save your work effort for your studies. Not for the miraculous transformation of foreign credits.
     
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  12. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Get credits and a degree you know you can use. It doesn't cost the earth. Occam's Razor.
     
  13. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Still, after 3 years? That's a bad, bad sign. Ask yourself -- if you DID have a problem with this unaccredited (in our terms) school--
    how far do you think you might get?
     
  14. AsianStew

    AsianStew Moderator Staff Member

    Become an Approved Centre | OTHM Qualifications

    USA - Missouri
    The Continents States University
    Available Courses
    OTHM Level 7 Diploma in Business and Organisational Psychology
    OTHM Level 7 Diploma in Health and Social Care Management
    OTHM Level 7 Diploma in Strategic Management and Leadership

    Wow, if someone can do all 3 in that one year, for $1K, that's a good deal
     
  15. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    3 different unrelated diplomas - how many courses each? I'm guessing it's maybe 21-30 courses total, for three.. Work equivalent to 3 credits apiece. 2 weeks each? I'd pay $1,000 NOT to do that! Why would anyone attempt it ...? Just to get stuff cheap?

    You wouldn't have enough energy left to hop aboard the Top-Up bus to Chichester! (And if you did, you might still be looking at 4500 GBP or more to complete any kind of meaningfully accredited degree, which a Continents States degree is NOT.)
     
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  16. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    I've just heard from someone whose info I consider very reliable on this (and other) topics, as follows:

    (1) This school's partnership with Sophia appears to have ended.
    (2) There appears to be no way of joining the OTHM programs through the website.
    (3) Buried in the fine print is the fact that there will be considerable additional fees for OTHM exams - and certification by OTHM
    (4) There are plenty of even cheaper OTHM programs available elsewhere.

    My take: For North American students at least, this is a complete non-starter. "Beam me up, Scotty. Nothing meaningful here."
     
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