Teaching with DETC accreditation

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  1. shanerdaner

    shanerdaner New Member

    Hi everyone. I was wondering if I can teach online with a DBA from a school that has DETC accreditation? I would like to pay out of pocket for this degree and can afford it if I go to a school like California Intercontinental University or CCU and I just did not want to waste money... TIA for your help!
     
  2. Shawn Ambrose

    Shawn Ambrose New Member

    At a community colleger, sure. At most 4 year schools, probably not, unless you have a great deal of industry experience. If you want the 4 year teaching gig, you should look at an RA school.

    Shawn
     
  3. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    A regionally accredited community college is held to the same accreditation standards as a four-year RA university and, subsequently, a DETC DBA cannot be used for teaching purposes at RA institutions. As more people obtain DETC degrees, this problem will surface more frequently. Caveat Emptor.

    However, if you have a RA Masters degree, then you can teach for a community college, even if you have a DETC DBA.
     
  4. StefanM

    StefanM New Member

    If your purpose is to teach on a college level, don't waste your money and time.

    If you have an RA masters, you can already teach at the undergraduate level.

    If you do not have an RA masters, the non-RA doctorate won't open any more doors.
     
  5. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    As an aside, when weighing conflicting responses, you may want to consider that Shawn actually hires community college faculty.

    Just sayin'.

    -=Steve=-
     
  6. cravenco

    cravenco New Member

    Great advice.
     
  7. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    A DBA from a DETC school is almost a vanity degree. You can always test the degree by sending your resume for online adjunct positions by listing this degree. With so many graduates from RA schools, I believe it would be a hard sell.

    The DETC DBA might work for the very few that already have a full time faculty position and just need the doctorate for a promotion or pay bump.

    There are some debates about the use of a DETC DBA for the work place and industrial positions. I haven't still seen job ads that call for DBAs other than University positions.
     
  8. Could he teach business at DETC-accredited schools? Or are they also biased against NA degrees?
     
  9. GeneralSnus

    GeneralSnus Member

    I know that DETC-accredited Grantham University requires requires its faculty to hold RA degrees.
     
  10. shanerdaner

    shanerdaner New Member

    I have and ra MM and I am accepted and ready to begin a Phd @ NCU but was considering getting a Doc from Cal Intercontinental University...it is much cheaper. I am teaching at a onground community college currently and have around 10 years of CEO/management experience. I don't want to waste money but if I could save it that would be great. I would like to teach online at 2 schools part time and continue my adjunct cc work.

    I appreciate all of your input!
     
  11. RFValve

    RFValve Well-Known Member

    Most DETC schools pay really low. I don't think a DBA is justifiable to teach at a DETC school unless teaching is really your passion and don't care about the money.
    Besides, most would prefer a RA degree, the same way non AACSB accredited schools prefer graduates from AACSB accredited schools. They all want to improve their reputation and public perception.
     
  12. cravenco

    cravenco New Member

    Sounds like you are already set for success. Have a good educational experience at NCU, Shanerdaner. Looking forward from hearing from you soon via this forum.
     
  13. cravenco

    cravenco New Member

    Is not this the reason to teach; for the passion, not the money? :p
     
  14. Shawn Ambrose

    Shawn Ambrose New Member

    There is "can be used" v. "should be used." HLC's policy statement on qualified faculty does not distinguish between NA or RA for faculty:

    Publications | Information for Institutions

    While at the HLC annual meeting last year, I posed this question to an HLC Liaison who confirmed this. Since DETC is recognized by the US Dept. of Ed, a faculty member holding an MBA from a DETC school is qualified to teach at an RA school.

    So while a DETC degree CAN be used, the fact of the matter is that most RA schools are going to require that their faculty hold RA degrees.

    Shawn
     
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  15. StefanM

    StefanM New Member

    The important bit of missing information is the master's degree.

    Many schools will not touch a candidate who doesn't have at least an RA master's degree unless there is substantial professional experience.
     
  16. If you had an RA master's from a good school but a DETC doctorate, would the doctorate even help you getting a job at an RA school?

    In other words, would it even be worth listing on your CV?
     
  17. shanerdaner

    shanerdaner New Member

    I was wondering that I have a passion for education and the only factor for me was price. I think all of your help has allowed for me to lean more toward NCU... Shawn do schools check accreditation when hiring or just a confirmed Masters? Mine is in Management from UOP. I would like to teach online @ Capella or AIU. I just felt a PhD or Doctoral would help me ... thanks again!
     
  18. cravenco

    cravenco New Member

    By me seeking a Doctor of Arts from a NA University, Harrison Middleton, I was told that I would have to depend on my Masters from APUS if I wanted to teach in Higher Education.
     
  19. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    Thanks for the insight.
     
  20. StefanM

    StefanM New Member

    I know this wasn't addressed to me, but I am familiar with the policies of my university. The Dean requires original transcripts from all institutions attended, and he verifies courses completed, degrees completed, and accreditation.
     

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