Tangerine Hitler has won!

Discussion in 'Political Discussions' started by sanantone, Nov 6, 2024.

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  1. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    He's won Pennsylvania. Unless he loses Maine second district and every other outstanding swing state, Harris has no chance.
     
  2. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Can't blame the Electoral College this time. It looks like he won the popular vote as well.
     
  3. Michael Burgos

    Michael Burgos Well-Known Member

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  4. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    I expect to see the Hitler youth haircut make another comeback. I'm not particularly fond of it.
     
  5. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    I said I was done posting about politics, but this is so momentous I thought I'd drop one last line.

    "In a democracy, the people get the government they deserve." -- Alexis de Tocqueville

    Unlike 2016, he didn't win it in a fluke. He won because American preferred him. It says so much more about America than it does about him.

    This nation has for centuries now been dominated by White Male Supremacy. It was pushed to its limit in this race. You see the results. And the guardrails are now completely off--their moms can't even scold them into acting like adults.

    I served this country for 33 years. This--and what what will ensue from it--insults to my very core what I believe we are and should be. But that's my problem. Excuse me while I go tend to it.
     
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  6. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Not really. A bit disappointed, but that's not the same thing.

    Interesting to see a gloating post from you, though. Do you truly believe that this person reflects your Christian values?
     
  7. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    The growth in popularity of the manosphere movement correlates with the rise of MAGA. The Department of Homeland Security calls it the anti-feminist movement, and it's been a national security concern. SPLC calls it the male supremacist movement, and it has strong influences from conservative Christianity and Islam. Trump went on manosphere podcasts to reach young men. Statements like "grab 'em by the p*ssy" resonates with this group. On ABC, an analyst said that focus groups with men revealed that they believed that Harris focused too much on women's issues.
     
  8. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    I talked a little about why people leave religion and how it's often not via analytical thinking; although, non-religious people in the U.S. do tend to have better analytical skills. This doesn't hold true across all countries, though. One attribute that was seen across cultures was the witnessing of hypocrisy among religious adherents. In other words, seeing people not act very Christian or whatever religion they belong to makes people lose faith.
     
  9. Michael Burgos

    Michael Burgos Well-Known Member

    Wowee.
     
  10. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    The Jews Who Fought for Nazi Germany

    https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/arts-letters/articles/ellen-feldman-nazi-germany

    In American slavery, there were slaves who would tell on other slaves who broke the rules, volunteer to catch runaway slaves, and discipline slaves on behalf of the master.

    The Blue Vein Society was a group of Black people with a high amount of European ancestry who believed they were genetically superior to other Black people.

    Republican Mark Robinson called himself a Black Nazi, but even before that revelation, he gained a reputation for making anti-Black comments.
     
  11. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    Just in case anyone is unaware, Hispanic is not a race. Some Hispanics are fully White. Many, if not most, Hispanics are partially White. The average Mexican American is more European than Native American. Out of the three times I've been called the n-word, two of those times was from a Hispanic.

    Afro-Mexicans fought to be recognized in the Mexican Census because of the racism they faced from Mestizo and White Hispanics. Fully indigenous Mexicans also face racism. So, just because someone is labeled a minority doesn't mean they can't be a white supremacist.
     
  12. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Comparisons to Nazi Germany found on liberal campuses. If there is a danger of antisemitism and hate of Jews, the breeding ground is that Jihadi and their sympathizers took control over the minds of future generations.
    The grand Mufti, an allie of Hitler, Nazi Germany and his "theology" are freely propagated on US campuses, among our bright and so called logical people, and academics who now believe the sky is green.
     
  13. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    Speaking of the manosphere's connection to MAGA, Andrew Tate says he's moving back to the U.S. because of the Trump win. Andrew Tate converted to Islam because he said that Christianity was getting too liberal with tolerating homosexuality and women not being submissive. He's facing rape and sex trafficking charges in two countries. K-12 teachers have blamed Andrew Tate's influence for a growing problem of boys making sexist comments and harassing their female classmates.

    https://www.newsweek.com/andrew-tate-celebrates-donald-trump-election-win-claims-moving-back-us-1981143
     
  14. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    Lerner, you missed the entire point of the post. Some Jews, Black people, Hispanics, Asians, etc. have internalized racism. I've come across Black people who think that Black people are inferior. Being a minority doesn't preclude someone from being a white supremacist.
     
  15. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    You didn't answer my question.
     
  16. JoshD

    JoshD Well-Known Member

    I did not vote for a President because I was not fond of either. That said, I give props to the Trump campaign for speaking to the working class. It seemed as though the Harris campaign piggy backed on the idea that “she was not Trump” and expected that to work.

    I am not fearful though. Life will go on and we will do this again in 4 years.
     
  17. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Concentration camps, nation wide abortion ban, blanket tariffs, persecuting law abiding citizens that have simply spoken out against Trump, using the military to round up kill folks he doesn't like, take away the broadcast licenses of NBC, CBS, ABC, and MSNBC, etc. etc. If Trump does half of the stuff he's planning, it's going to get really ugly quickly.
     
    Last edited: Nov 6, 2024
  18. Suss

    Suss Active Member

    Yes. And it's always been the case that Americans, of whatever age, race, ethnicity, gender, will often vote against their rational best interests.
     
  19. Michael Burgos

    Michael Burgos Well-Known Member

    Oh sorry, I was busy enjoying the cool New England air.

    Not so much of a gloat. It is risky to read too much into memes. After reading the steady stream of comments for the last several months from DI posters seeking to redefine fascism, the identity of Hitler, and Nazism to describe someone who leans on strict constructionism, I figured I might poke fun. Laughing at the lack of realism in some of these comments has become a pastime.

    It's a good question. I wish more people would ask that of those evangelicals who supported Trump. Two observations: I have yet to encounter a viable presidential candidate who neatly fits even within the broad strokes of my values. A few primary candidates came close over the years, and I didn't support Trump in the 2016 primary for that reason. I had another candidate in mind for this election that similarly didn't stand a chance. Therefore, I am left with voting for the candidate I believe comes the closest. One of those values is a love of this country and an affirmation and respect of its founding documents. I came from a military family and I have a son in the USMC. My family is a patriotic, even a nationalistic people. I believe Trump truly loves our nation, so I've supported his presidency twice. One significant value I have is religious liberty. Clearly, there has not been a candidate who has fought for religious liberty to the degree of Trump among the last four presidencies. Second, my primary concern with a less-than-ideal candidate is with policy. While I am quite aware of Trump's horrendous moral indiscretions, I am also aware that I am voting mainly on policies and his performance as 45. As an unrelated aside, I find the lawfare un-American and am suspicious of those people who argue based on it or based on the "white male supremacy" canard.
     
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  20. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Based on the exit polls, Biden administration approval ratings were absolutely horrible. I think a lot of people were voting against that more than they were voting for Trump.
     

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