See my entry about U. of P's Schizo Web Site and OCD Course Design

You encouraged it ted.

 

I did no such thing; I merely pointed out that for a mental health professional to use diagnostic terminologies as pejoratives is equally as irresponsible as it would be for a melanin-deprived individual to use certain terminologies if he is not referring to garden shovels or suits in a card deck.

 

Agreed. I believe that a mental health professional using diagnostic terminologies as pejoratives is irresponsible, but that is not what I was posting about. Don't worry about it, water under the bridge

 

Jaer,

I am amazed at all the presumptions we humans make. First, thanks for pointing out to me about my website not being there. I did not remove it. The administrator might have done that but it was certainly not me. Everyone is expecting apologies. Do I get one?

 

The man gets a free pass.

Rari... I did not use mental health terms as a pejorative of a person. Did you get that? The guy who got a free pass keeps on insisting on that. That's untruth.

 

If I misinterpreted your post ted, then my apologies. I didn't want to get into a youtube insult fest and I think it was getting to that point with myself contributing.

If we have concerns about certain issues in regards to what a poster has said, it's good to express them. At times, when things get to heated, it's good to step back reflect and come back with a cool head. I don't know Sam ( blackbird ) as a person, but I respect his accomplishments and educational attainments. So I was a bit taken aback by his posts. Initially, I did not see anything wrong with what Blackbird posted. I thought he was referring to a website. However, I can understand if a person who is having a personal issues would be offended.

No blackbird..ted is definitely not getting a free pass. I never got a free pass and I am glad for it.

 

This whole flame war erupted over one relatively insignificant word.

It's something that I've noticed a lot (no I'm not a psychologist) particularly in highly intelligent groups.

When somebody is communicating, the listener/reader loses grasp of the content and purpose of the overall message and reacts instead to individual words, phrases or tangential remarks within it.

We see it happening all the time on the internet, where it seems to be particularly prevalent. It's what often drives threads off the rails. And we've just watched it happen again right here.

 

I removed your website and I am sorry. Happy?

 

Thank you, Rari. I know you were motivated by wanting to help and covering my back. I believe the best of ya.

 

I apologize for the assumption, but I still stand by my point. You are trying to tell people not to get offended, when you really should just accept that people will get offended. Whether you care or not is another story, but you getting on a soapbox and telling others they shouldn't get uppity about "one relatively insignificant word" doesn't mean people won't get uppity about "how offensive the word 'schizo' can be to certain classes of persons".

Just say what you really mean. There is no social phenomena about political correctness; people are going to associate certain feelings about certain words, phrases, and actions; as they always have. This isn't some new concept invented by uber-liberals or neo-conservatives. I just find it somewhat amusing when a reply to a political correctness argument sounds like "people just shouldn't get offended" rather than "I just don't care that I offended you" or "I'm sorry I offended you." At least the latter two are realistic. The former is just never going to happen with most people.

Of course, this is all my humble opinion. I am, after all, no doctor of psychology; just a man who has plenty of experience in offending people...

 

No problem. It is easy to assume that since typically only oneself and administrator have that kind of access to a personal account.

You are somewhat right. It is just that some here started to make false statements and misrepresent what I said. It was a distortion of what I posted then the whole thing became a snowball going down the hill. I do normally care when folks get offended, especially if I LEGITIMATELY caused that offense. In this case I was being asked to apologize for something I honestly believe I never committed but rather was put on me. It is like signing a false confession.

I have no problem saying I don't care or do care that someone is offended. Again this case was a forcing to extract or sign, figuratively speaking, a false confession.

I do personally feel that there is a social phenomena that has gone too extreme. It does not matter that the Left or Right is doing it but it is there. It is based on seeing oneself as a victim and assuming that others mean to create victims of others. It passes judgment on a group as being helpless and it passes judgment on the person making the un-PC statement, condemning that person as some bigot or horrible person. These beliefs tend to keep folks entrenched in a mindset of personal, moral, and spiritual poverty. PC enslaves the mind.

Then you are qualified. We all have feet of clay.

 

The internet is serious business

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RSsJ19sy3JI&feature=PlayList&p=79C4C0337E89CFCD&index=0&playnext=1

 

What a bunch of nonsense. You describe your location as Latin America. You say that the use of the term schizo was an attempt at humor. Maybe you are like a frustrated stand up comedian that calls the crowd stupid for not getting your jokes...or maybe you just aren't that funny.

 

I'm very aware of web development, as that's my current field (psyc volunteering not withstanding). If your description of the UoP website is accurate (and I believe it is), then that would be accurate. I agreed with you on that point.

"Compassion" can be had in tough love, "soft love," but at times it seems like you have no love for your patients. By compassion I meant sympathy and empathy, combined with a professional attitude towards patients and the therapy process. Taking a "tough love" approach to some patients does not define or negate compassion. But, being overly-judgmental and saying that patients 'need to be put in their place' makes you seem downright compassionless and unprofessional.

If you truly believe that, I don't know what to say. I'm hoping that it was just a slip of the tongue -- of the non-freudian variety.

And yes, one can thumb through many psychology textbooks and see examples of extreme psychological disorders. Even in pop culture, one can get at least a vague sense of the more severe side of personality disorders.

 

Also, I am not politically-correct. Considering the needs of patients is not PC, it's the right thing to do. I am holding in a really un-PC thought about appropriateness and respect taught at certain doctoral programs and about my unlikelihood to ever consider those programs because of it.

You got hyper-defensive at the original disagreement (re: terminology) and brought a lot of semi-related disagreements to the discussion. Your attempt at cuteness failed. It's not a big deal. It happens to me all the time.

 

You have a good life, friend.

 

Griffin, I believe in both soft love and tough love. Each has its place.
It is so easy to be misunderstood in the form of words on the internet. I would have hoped that folks here would read the context before drawing fables and myths from just a few words taken out of context. I think you are sharp enough to understand this as you have shown.

Some patients require firmness and being tough with them while others would wilt if they were treated that way. Of course, as I have said in this thread, that there in no "one size fits all" approach for all patients. I hope that is clear.