Rebounding - Private schools & Homeschooling...

Discussion in 'General Distance Learning Discussions' started by AsianStew, Sep 16, 2022.

  1. AsianStew

    AsianStew Moderator Staff Member

    "Homeschooling is emerging as another challenge. The percentage choosing that option has doubled from 3 percent to 6 percent since the pandemic. Homeschooling is also morphing into hybrid forms, such as neighborhood pods, home-private school combinations and micro-schools where parents teach."

    Even though Private Schools are rebounding (which is a good sign for them), they're needing to find more innovative ways to gain and retain enrollment. Homeschooling is just one challenge, there's the regular public school system, and other online distributed learning options too... Let see how this pans out in the next few years to come...

    Link: Private schools are rebounding — but can it last? | The Hill
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    TEKMAN Semper Fi!

    Honestly, I would not recommend homeschooling. I have been homeschooling my kids for 3 years now. And It is lot of work and sometimes, kids don't really care. The only reason I am homeschooling my kids because my son has ADHD and struggled with public school. I applied for local charter school, but they are in a waiting list. So, now they are both in Florida Virtual School's flexible program; which we can pick one class at a time.
  3. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Homeschooling isn't for everyone, but it probably saved my youngest kid's life. After sixth grade I told him I wasn't sending him back to public school and he looked like he'd just gotten a call from the governor not only staying his execution but offering a full pardon as well.
  4. Michael Burgos

    Michael Burgos Active Member

    My wife and I have homeschooled our nine children since long before COVID. Two of them have run their course; one is a graduate student and one is a registered nurse. The rest are still on their way. We do not homeschool because is easy-- it isn't. Nor do we do it because it's cheap or convenient-- it's neither of those. We do it to afford our children the finest education we possibly can and to instill in them the values, convictions, and character that we feel are appropriate.
  5. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

  6. Greeneyedpea81

    Greeneyedpea81 New Member

    If the public education system continues to decline and water down the curriculum then I will be homeschooling my kids. As of now they are in STEM programs and doing well, but if that changes then I’ll homeschool them.

    According to the World Economic Forum (WEF) and United Nations (UN) the needs for “Future Work” or “21st Century Worker” are advanced cognitive skills, strong in STEM subjects, empathy, leadership, agility, etc. Grade inflation seems to be a trending thing and an increase in virtue signaling (lack of humility) all of which is a recipe for a unstable foundation.

    I do know there’s a business opportunity for Charter schools with for-profit management companies managing these schools and hedge funds are backing it. Hopefully the charter schools outcomes improve as well.
  7. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Homeschooling. Because parents who aren't teachers are nonetheless trained in both the varied subject matters to be taught as well as the pedagogy necessary to facilitate their children's learning.

    Yeah, sure.
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  8. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    And yet when you measure outcomes rather than inputs, it turns out that the process does matter.
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  9. Dustin

    Dustin Well-Known Member

    Homeschooling done well is awesome. You go exactly at your kids level, instead of slowing them down or forcing them to try to keep up with the average student in the classroom. On the other hand, bad homeschooling is really bad. You see kids who lack basic literacy or numeracy, especially in states where the standards and oversight are limited. So while I'm a proponent of homeschooling for those who can do it well, I don't think I could homeschool my own kids effectively.
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  10. Michael Burgos

    Michael Burgos Active Member

    Oh right, the professionalization of teaching has done wonders for everyone. Meanwhile, in reality, it has been demonstrated ad infinitum that homeschooled children statistically perform massively better in academic achievement.
  11. Michael Burgos

    Michael Burgos Active Member

    Alright. But what is the basis for suggesting that 1.) there is a statistically significant amount of homeschooled children who lack basic literacy etc. and 2.) that state oversight has a positive effect on homeschooling outcomes?
  12. Vicki

    Vicki Well-Known Member

    Having worked in K-12 schools for over a decade, I have seen most of the kids who leave for homeschooling and online schooling return to regular brick and mortar schools. It's not for everyone.
  13. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    I'll stand by what I posted.
  14. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    It wasn't a personal attack. If that was the case, you'd have to delete thousands of similar posts from Levicoff.

    To avoid casting any aspersions on an individual, I will consider starting a thread about the subject instead.
  15. Michael Burgos

    Michael Burgos Active Member

    Unsurprising. The facts do not matter to some people (e.g., here, here, here, here, here).
  16. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Thank you for your feedback.
  17. Dustin

    Dustin Well-Known Member

    Studies focused on homeschooled kids who made it to college conveniently fail to capture the kids who couldn't get in to college because their educational neglect failed to prepare them for enrollment. Convenience samples are going to capture those parents who are successful homeschooling, or else they wouldn't volunteer. Homeschooling is difficult to study, so being cavalier about the quality of the research you cite doesn't help your case, nor does the attitude that anyone who disagrees must just not care about facts. That's plainly false.

    I've said my piece and neither of us are going to convince each other, but pot shots like that are unhelpful and unconvincing.
  18. Acolyte

    Acolyte Active Member

    Painting "Homeschooling" with a broad brush is silly. It's as varied as the quality one would get in a public school. If I had to send my kids to the public schools I went to here in Columbus, Ohio (which graduate like 70%) I would fight tooth and nail for other options. If I lived in one of the suburbs around here though - I would be just fine with the kids going there. Public schools are undermined not only by budgets, but by insufficient parenting (notice I didn't say BAD) and disinterested kids. You can only throw so much money at it if the education itself is not valued in the home, and the overall experience gets dragged down by the kids that require more from the school (parenting, emotional support, behavior modeling, food, etc.) than the schools are designed to provide.
  19. Michael Burgos

    Michael Burgos Active Member

    My attitude was cavalier? What was Rich's attitude? Why didn't you bother to address his comments? Or do you have an axe to grind? There are innumerable studies that demonstrate academic achievement at the secondary level and onward. I threw out a few that obviously demonstrate the lack of evidence behind Rich's quaint and incorrect claim. And in this case, Rich simply doesn't care about the facts.
  20. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Agreed. I grew up attending a great public school system and was kind of a slacker; in retrospect wished I'd taken better advantage of it.

    My kids' experience with those systems varied from perfectly fine, to not great but homeschooling probably wouldn't have been any better, to my youngest where his first year of middle school was a disaster from which extrication was the only option.

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