Ra Vs Detc

Re: DETC discrimination is unacceptable

Unless you've attended every DETC and RA school, you can hardly make such a sweeping generalization.

As Andy mentioned, if all DETC schools are as academically rigorous as you claim, they'd have no problem attaining regional accreditation. Just having RA would be extremely valuable from a marketing perspective, so why don't they go for it?

 

Re: Re: Ra Vs Detc

Andy,

I would love to see DETC schools get RA status. Unfortunately, it has never happened and I'm not holding my breath that it ever will. By the way, RA isn't necessarily a stamp of approval that a school is rigorous. Like I mentioned in my earlier post, the DETC program that I'm currently enrolled in is much more rigorous than my previous three RA schools.

You can't ignore the elite liberal establishment because they are at the root of the problem. The board of directors for most RA agencies are made up of professors, university presidents, and superintendents of schools - the same ilk that many elites fancy themselves to be, or long to be. And even if a DETC got RA status, it wouldn't matter because the stigma of DL programs is already embedded in acadamia.

Dan

 

Re: DETC discrimination is unacceptable

You seem to speak out of both sides of your mouth, Sir. You claim that I must be kidding and then admit that DETC is cheaper than RA.

As far as the rest of your rant goes, I'm sorry that you feel "discriminated" against. The reality of the situation is that DETC is considered second rate. Why it is that way, I'm sure could fill a book. I consider it ridiculous to paint the simple fact as some deep social injustice. You trying to paint it as such is not doing DETC any favors, in my book, especially when you use it as an excuse to get on your high horse and insult this community.

If you're trying to make friends, it ain't working. If you're trying to convince anyone of anything besides the fact that you're emotionally distraught, it ain't working. If you're just ranting to try to make yourself feel better then I hope it worked.

 

Ummm, sorry to be the bearer of bad news but you are flat out wrong. WGU is both DETC and later Gained RA. AMU is DETC and in the process of gaining RA. If a DETC school is serious about education it should have no problem gaining RA status.

 

Re: Re: Re: Ra Vs Detc

Following your logic, a DL degree from Penn State, University of California-Irvine, or Indiana State (all of which offer totally non-resident degrees) would have no value in academia.

I think you might be mistaken.

 

WGU attained regional accreditation via a special cross-regional arrangement, plus political pressure from the school's primary champion, Gov. Mike Leavitt.

AMU had to move to a different state to have a shot at regional accreditation.

I think that a DL school outside NCA territory is going to have great problems in achieving regional accreditation.

 

You make a good point. However moving a DL school is not a big issue. Any school serious about its role would simply follow AMU's lead and move to NCA's region. I think the RA DL trend is well established. I believe it will be harder and harder for non-RA schools to compete as the RA schools continue developing DL programs. It will be interesting to see what the next few years bring in the DL field.

 

Uncle J,

I'm at sea. First time in over three years. Just got my internet up and running. It's slow, but I'm still amazed by the technology.

Dan,

Great to see another AMUer on the board. I'm pretty sure AMU has awarded more MAs than undergrad degrees. The best part of going to the commencement ceremony was meeting fellow graduates most of whom were receiving MAs.

If I understand the process correctly, there is some chance AMU might even be regionally accredited by the time you graduate.
The North Central Assocation will conduct its site visit of AMU this month. I have volunteered to be contacted by and provide my thoughts to them.

Like you, I was absolutely thrilled with my AMU experience. However, the reality is that national accreditation is not viewed as the equal of regional accreditation. I would not say my Navy College counselors tried to talk me out of enrolling at AMU, but they ensured that I was aware of the potential difficulties with perception, transfer of credits, further graduate study, etc.

I'm glad I enrolled at AMU and proud to have graduated, as I've stated in just about every AMU thread.

I firmly believe that AMU must achieve regional accreditation in order to reach its full potential.

 

I meant to say the site visit is scheduled for later in October.

 

Hi Charles: Oh wow. At sea like ocean like, not like dazed and confused like. I hope all is going well for you. Thanks for the trenchant post on AMU. Best wishes, Janko