Quantic adding undergraduate degree

Discussion in 'Business and MBA degrees' started by chrisjm18, Jul 12, 2022.

  1. chrisjm18

    chrisjm18 Well-Known Member

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  2. JoshD

    JoshD Well-Known Member

    I saw that yesterday and thought it was pretty interesting. Curious when they plan to launch because they had the same type of role for a computer science/data science degree program I believe.
  3. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    If it has the quality of their MBA program, as reported by Dustin, it should be a very solid offering indeed. Who'd have thought they'd be this good, back in the early days of Smart.ly? Good school - right out of the gate. Kudos to them.
  4. nomaduser

    nomaduser Active Member

    What ....
    I don't think they have that much reputation yet. Also, they're not regionally accredited.
    They should get their regional accreditation first. :rolleyes:
  5. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    I think they're establishing a reputation that's about as good as it can get for a pretty new school. Have you not read Dustin's posts as he went through the program? Or what other Quantic MBA students had to say? I think what's been said speaks extremely well for the school.

    And why must the school pursue Regional Accreditation? Especially, right away? I ask, because the main hurdle for a good school, (like Quantic) in attaining RA is to meet the accreditor's stringent financial requirements, which are a very hefty deal, indeed. Considerably more demanding than the financial requirements under NA. The net effect of that is almost invariably to push up cost of attendance significantly. Do you like that idea? :eek:

    (And yes, I know UoTP did. That's a special case. I think they can afford things other shcools can't. Good for them, but not everyone has that kind of resources.)

    You didn't strike me as an RA-or-the-highway type. Did something change? Or was I wrong to start with?
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  6. LearningAddict

    LearningAddict Well-Known Member

    Why not a Bachelor's in Business & Technology?
  7. Rachel83az

    Rachel83az Well-Known Member

    Doesn't a school generally need to be operating for a while, and granting unaccredited degrees, before they can even apply for RA/NA? If that is the case, saying that they need to be RA before they offer (more) degrees is kind of putting the cart before the horse.
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  8. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    This school is Nationally Accredited - DEAC. I'm just wondering why nomaduser thinks it's so important they get RA. I differ.
  9. JoshD

    JoshD Well-Known Member

    I think the only reason someone need a RA degree would be if they have a certain grad school they want to attend. Some universities will not accept a NA degree. Now, I am not saying it is right or wrong, but some places do have those policies.
  10. Alpine

    Alpine Active Member

    Johann, is it true that the international community recognizes nationally accredited degrees with more authenticity than regionally accredited? I have spoken with foreign students and it appears they would prefer a "nationally" accredited school over the "regional." The US Department of Education has made it clear that the distinctions are irrelevant.
  11. LearningAddict

    LearningAddict Well-Known Member

    That's because they don't know our system and think that national is better than regional because of how it sounds. There are people here in the United States who also take that position for the same reason.

    It's going to take a very long time for that to sink in with the general public.
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  12. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    No, it is decidedly NOT true -in official circles, at least. For instance UK-NARIC refuses to evaluate any NA degree. RA only. I believe some other European evaluation agencies do the same. Declarations of USDoE have not altered that, as far as I know.

    Consolation: Nobody's bound by UK-NARIC's decision. UK Universities may admit NA grads to further study as they see fit. Employers can hire as they wish, too.
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  13. Rachel83az

    Rachel83az Well-Known Member

    Same with Anabin & Germany. But Anabin is also picky about RA degrees. I think that there are a couple other EU countries that care, though many that do not.
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  14. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Yes - Anabin is picky on some issues, not just accreditation. They're very picky on Doctorates, as they don't think every foreign doc-holder should be "Herr/Frau Doktor" in Germany. And MBA's too. It's "AACSB or the Autobahn." And that means RA automatically, as those are the only US schools for which AACSB will accredit programs. Well, OK. They have standards. And they're seriously diligent at applying them. I can't say anything against that, though ACBSP might. :)
  15. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    That's true, Josh. Nomaduser hasn't shown up to confirm this yet - but I've thought of another possible reason:
    His profile doesn't show a location - but maybe he's based in Europe - perhaps a country like UK or Germany that's emphatic on RA degrees and only those are of use to him. Or maybe he's (gasp!) Canadian! ( I seem to remember him posting something about Alberta schools once.) Hopefully, he'll tell us.
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  16. mbwa shenzi

    mbwa shenzi Active Member

    UK ENIC, as a consequence of Brexit.


    No, although there are ongoing discussions in some countries.

    The same goes for some other European countries. However, there are ENIC-NARIC offices whose comparability statements are binding for universities with respect to the level of the qualification. If the ENIC-NARIC says a degree is comparable to a bachelor's degree in the national system, universities can't question that.
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  17. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Speaking of Canada, NA degrees here don't have nearly the acceptance they do on their home turf. I think that Canada is seriously missing the NA boat and both employers and schools here should re-think their policies. Even a partial modification would be a great improvement.
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  18. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    No. I remember now. That was innen_oda, not nomaduser. Both were posting frequently back then. Haven't seen innen_oda lately. I guess that's because he hasn't posted since July 2021. Hope he's doing OK.

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