Qualifying to teach.

So adjunct jobs require 18 credit hours to teach a particular subject, I have 12 credit hours in finance from my MBA. So this is my question, HES offers the ALM-Management with a concentration in finance. If I took two of the finance courses through HES would that make me qualified? The courses wouldn't be through a business school so would they count towards qualifying someone to teach as an adjunct. I could knock the two courses out this summer since I don't have any Ed.M classes. If HES won't work can someone recommend another school that is relatively cheap and will meet employer requirements (as an employee I can take courses at HES for $40 each). Thoughts?

 

What are the prefixes of the ALM courses? Are they FIN?

 

All business classes at HES are listed under MGMT regardless of discipline.

 

If the title has Finance in it that should be fine. I think it is up to the hiring school and they can be flexable. I have MGT5005 - Management Finance and Control and HCA5012 - Heath Care Financial Management and was wondering if they would count as finance classes.

I am sure more knowledgeable people will weigh in with more fact then guessing.

 

In my experience it is the hiring school's perogative. Some I have dealt with looked at the title of the course to make a determination with a few even going to the lengths of asking for course descriptions and syllabi.

Other schools I have dealt with (all were SACS schools which may be coincidence) required that the course prefix be in the subject being hired for with a few even going to the added extent of requiring that the Master's degree be in the subject being hired for.

I was denied a faculty position in homeland security/emergency management at a SACS school and given the reason that I did not meet required qualifications because my MBA degree from NCU in Homeland Security was not a degree in homeland security, but an MBA with specialization courses (yes, I had 18 credits in HS) and did not meet school requirements for faculty composition in their programs. I am not sure if this was a school policy, SACS policy, or just a convenient reason to deny my application because they did not like it for whatever reason.

 

Are you sure that school is not part of the movement against hiring folks with degrees from internet schools? Many B & M schools have subtle ways of discriminating against internet degrees while giving nonsensical excuses. This seems to be one case of that. I draw this conclusion, in part, due to a similar past experience. In fact, my fears of this type of rejection occurring in the future is the main reason why I have decided never to pursue any other degree from an online-only school (even though APUS's MBA in IT Management, as well as their Digital Forensics Grad certificate keeps on calling me, in my dreams - just kidding, to register). Just my way of guiding my educational investment.

 

As much as I hate to interrupt your conspiracy, my answer would be NO. This is a public university in Florida. The program director for the program I was applying to had a degree from Capella and the dean at the time had a degree from Walden. I was asked questions about NCU indicating to me at the time they had no knowledge about the school. They told me that they needed a faculty member with an MA in homeland security/emergency management and my MBA did not fit the requirement.

Despite my experience with the above school, I would not doubt that practice occurs at all especially at more selective schools. I no longer have an NCU degree listed anywhere in my credentials and all of my higher education that I list on my resume is from B&M state institutions. I am also at the point where I can start removing some of the less than stellar schools I have taught for in the past for the same reasons.

 

Okay, so what I am hearing is that I could possibly teach finance courses at some schools with the HES classes. I already have enough grad hours to be considered for general management courses, but thought knocking out a couple of finance courses might be a good idea as that seems to be an area with far more need than general management. From what I am hearing you're saying someone could go to HES, take 5 finance courses, but because they are all prefixed with MGMT it would qualify them to teach management classes but not finance? If that is the case, maybe I should look into taking a couple of grad level finance courses at UMass-Boston this summer.

 

I would also think that schools would be much more receptive to such courses on your CV in particular. When you have an MBA from Vanderbilt, I would think that would give you a leg up in the process. I could see schools willing to be flexible with you but not with an MBA from Random U.

 

When I went through all this junk, the community college (which is under SACS) told me the prefix had to match the discipline in an obvious way. So HIST was history, POLS was political science, etc. ODU has a few geography courses which are designed to help high school teachers teach the standards of World HISTORY, yet, because ODU codes them as Geography, they can't count towards history. It's weird, but I guess it all comes down to interpretation.

This same community college also told one of my co-workers that certain MATH courses wouldn't count, because they were designed for teachers and not college instructors. So who knows?

-Matt