Proud day to be Republican

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  1. grgrwll

    grgrwll New Member

    LOL!

    Believe it or not, you don't have to be a fundamentalist Christian to be a conservative.

    The fact is, I support a drastic reduction in the size of the federal government, including eliminating MANY federal agencies, such as the Department of Education.

    I support fiscal responsibility. I believe in a balanced budget.

    I strongly support the Second Amendment.

    I strongly support the Tenth Amendment. The federal government should be as small as possible.

    And I strongly support the entire Constitution.

    But since G.W. Bush wants to increase the size of the federal government and increase the power of agencies like the federal Department of Education, and do it all through deficit spending, when people like me advocate the TRUE conservative ideas described above, Bush followers actually think that we are liberals, simply because anyone who doesn't support Bush MUST be a liberal.
     
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  2. kansasbaptist

    kansasbaptist New Member

    grgrwll,

    I am glad you took my comment in the humurous fashion it was intended, I meant to include a smilie.

    I have a 22 year old liberal son. He is a Christian, is pro-lfe, pro-gun, supporter of marriage admendment, but in spite of those positions, he would NEVER be mistaken for a conservative.

    Also, I wasn't making comment about your faith. My comment was related to the overall impression I got debating with you the last few days.

    I would have never guessed libertarian ;)
     
  3. grgrwll

    grgrwll New Member

    I suppose you would also say that Barry Goldwater would never be mistaken for a conservative.

    My, how things change.
     
  4. kansasbaptist

    kansasbaptist New Member

    In 1964, Yes or 2004, No?
     
  5. BinkWile

    BinkWile New Member

    I concur. I get furious that whenever I criticize Bush for his policies or behavior that I automatically labelled as a liberal or a democrat. Why is it OK for democrats and liberals to dislike their leader and republicans to not?
     
  6. Orson

    Orson New Member

    YEEES! Proud day to be Republican

    Objections that are besides the point!
    First, environmental organinzations have been supporters of resource "exploitation" whenever it haas served their interests directly. http://www.cascadepolicy.org/..%5Cpdf%5Cenv%5CANWR.htm

    Second, the Geneva Convention applies to nation-state signatories, not rogue terrorists on the battlefield. So Gonzales was on firm legal ground there - not flakey and disreputable.

    Better luck next time, Khan

    -Orson

     
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  8. Khan

    Khan New Member

    Re: YEEES! Proud day to be Republican

    So it's okay to torture people as long as we have redefined them as terrorists. Well, that clears that up.

    About the ANWR, you try to discredit the environmentalists and that makes it OK to screw up the ANWR over oil? Look, oil companies are not working in your best interest. Visit the oily coasts of Texas and see how much fun off shore oil drilling is. How clean. Did you notice the huge oil spill in the Alaskan Gulf last week? Again? That's where the pipeline ends. The wonderful non-disruptive pipeline.
    Oil companies cannot get oil out cleanly. Period. Eight guys will make $millions. America will have oil for an hour and the ANWR will be forever polluted. I don't care who wants to do it, I don't want it done.
     
  9. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Re: Re: YEEES! Proud day to be Republican

    Funny, isn't it, that most of those who don't want to drill in ANWR are non-Alaskans?

    The overwhelming majority of Alaskans favor drilling so much so that Democrat Tony Knowles switched his position in his recent run for U.S. Senate against Lisa Murkowski.
     
  10. Khan

    Khan New Member

    Re: Re: Re: YEEES! Proud day to be Republican

    Funny how well bribery works.
     
  11. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Re: Re: Re: Re: YEEES! Proud day to be Republican

    What an insult to the hard working people of Alaska who know their state and her needs better than anyone in the continental U.S.

    Typical blue state snobbery and aloofness!
     
  12. Khan

    Khan New Member

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: YEEES! Proud day to be Republican

    Yo! They pay them off to shut them up. I'm not making it up. They get dividends from selling their natural resources. I lived in Alaska for over two years and saw the way they operate. I only recently moved back down here.

    BTW: Why didn't you ever get back to me proving the link between 9//1 and Saddam from the 9/11 report?
    Answer: Because it can't be done.
     
  13. DTechBA

    DTechBA New Member

    Get the facts straight

    It was a spill (not huge BTW) of fuel oil (not crude) from a Malaysian flagged ship that was carrying soybeans.

    Any sober assessment of the dangers of drilling in the ANWR would demonstrate how blown out of proportion are the concerns expressed by the eco's. We are talking about 2000 acres out of 1.5 million, what a farce.

    These argument are from the people who think we can generate our power from wind and solar. Never mind the fact to come even close to generating a fraction of our energy needs it will take millions of acres of windmills and solar arrays. Never mind the visual blight and animal damage those would cause, it does'nt fit their story. I used the figures from a pro wind power site to determine it would take about 100,000 acres of windmills to power just the homes in the St. Louis metro area. Not the street lights or factories (which is the majority of the consumption), just the homes. And it would only provide power roughly 40% of the time as that is when you have enough wind. I guess we don't need the food that is grown on those acres and I am sure people would love the view. How many raptors would be killed?

    It is pure politics nothing more and their arguments are intellectually bankrupt.
     
  14. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    I agree

    I have to agree, The conservative reign is already falling apart. People are starting to receive Social Security statements informing them their benefits will be cut. Let's see how long most people will keep supporting this agenda.

    This current conservative agenda will disappear, just like the days of "The Contract with America" genius "Newt Gingrich".

    All the best, Abner
     
  15. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Re: I agree

    That's odd! My mother received one saying she will get a raise!
     
  16. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    Re: Re: I agree

    Tell her to read the fine print.

    Abner :)
     
  17. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Re: Re: Re: I agree

    Care to tell us what it says? My mother lives in Mississippi and it's a little late to call her.
     
  18. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    Re: Re: Re: Re: I agree

    I believe it in fine print in tiny little letters it will say future benefits will be reduced in the coming future, have you received a statement lately? I believe Bush made a public anouncement recently stating Social Security is shot, that probably means he ran the system into the ground. The funny thing, when he took office the Social Security System was scheduled to run into 2040.
     
  19. Abner

    Abner Well-Known Member

    well said!!!!!

    Very well said my friend!!!!!!!!!!

    Abner
     
  20. Guest

    Guest Guest

    Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: I agree

    Ah yes, the FUTURE! Your original post made it sound imminent. This is old news.

    Social Security hasn't been safe in some time. It has been in trouble for a long, long time. During the 1988 GOP presidential debate, Pete DuPoint and Pat Robertson were echoing the same things Bush is now.
     

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