Priest Issues 'Red Flag' Warning About Mike Johnson Remarks

Discussion in 'Political Discussions' started by Stanislav, Feb 14, 2024.

  1. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    "A good spiritual director will tell you that insights you feel are coming from God, which are usually subtle, must be carefully tested and weighed," Martin wrote on X, formerly Twitter, on Wednesday. "One red flag for spiritual directors is, 'Then God said this.' Not everything that pops into your head during prayer is from God."

    Fr. James here refers to a very well-known notion that one should be VERY careful about these types of visions, voices or messages, including during prayer, and certainly not seek them out. Voices purported to be from angels, saints, or even from God. They could stem from pride and be either self-delusions or demonic influences. This is what Eastern Orthodox tradition calls "prelest'", spiritual delusion. This is very dangerous, as people in prelest' perceive themselves as very virtuous and therefore won't repent. Cure for this is just what the priest suggests here: working with an experienced spiritual director, usually a priest, using sacramental Confession and prayer. I don't know, folks, I think Fr. James has MikeJo pegged here.
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  2. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    I get it that Mike Johnson's Biblical rhetoric is annoyingly self-aggrandizing and over the top, but he's an evangelical Southern Baptist, not a Roman Catholic, so treating the opinion of some random Roman Catholic priest who doesn't even know him as if it were a national news story is a bit hard to swallow. I mean this was literally just a tweet that Newsweek managed to spin into a whole clickbait article even though they reached out to both for comment and were ignored by Johnson and dismissed by Fr. James.
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  3. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    Why would it matter what denomination MikeJoe is? Demons wouldn't deign to talk to a Southern Baptist?
  4. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    I would guess that the lord likes to communicate with Southern Baptists through demons, especially if the Southern Baptist was in congress. I mean wouldn't it be too dangerous for an angel?
  5. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

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  6. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Divide and rule, this is his tactic.
  7. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    The Devil is British?
  8. Johann

    Johann Well-Known Member

    Could be. Did you know Aleister Crowley? Some people thought he was the Devil.

    Seriously, not quite British, in this case. "Divide et impera" - divide and rule, is sometimes attributed to Julius Caesar - and yeah, he did conquer Britain. I rather think he retained his Roman citizenship, though.

    Actually, the first person known to use the phrase was Philip II of Macedon, father of Alexander the Great - only he said it in Greek. You'll meet him on the Wiki page below.
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  9. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    But it IS good advice for basically anyone with a spiritual life. Be cautious about any sort of "revelation".

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