Predictions for Bush second term

1. Cheyny will retire in two years,
2. Republicans will move to left
3. Conservatives will look to ballanced budget,
4. Bush will end war in Iraq soon after Iraq elections,
5. Some federal tax increases (perhaps disguised as other fees).

Why do I predict these events?
Because the 2008 presidential campaign starts today.

 

And if Cheney leaves, anew V.P. would be appointed who would then be able to run for President in 2008.

Makes sense.

 

Good predictions

Here are mine

1. Local taxes will increase to compensate for the federal tax cuts.

2. Republican's will move even farther to the right and attempt to pass school prayer laws, repeal Roe v Wade, and stuff more religion down the throat of the normal American. (whether they like it or not)

3. The war will not end in the conventional sense. We will be bogged down there for at least 10 years. The draft will be reinstated prior to the 2006 mid-term elections. The twins will be exempt for reasons of self-importance.

4. We will still be in recession when Bush leaves in 2008. Walmart and Home Depot will be the primary jobs created (hey, this has already happened! lol)

5. All of the token Democrats in Bush's cabinet will leave in 2004. Rice will either quit or get the Sec State job. Powell will quit. Ashcroft will be replaced with Guiliani (a far better choice). Cheney will resign for health reasons before the end of his term in 08. At least two Supreme Court Justices will die from natural causes or resign for health reasons before 08.

Ok - before all of your Karl Rove lookalike Neo-cons get your panties in an upwar, chill out - they are just predictions.

 

I also think Cheney will leave due to health problems.

Bush should choose a woman for Veep. Alaska's Lisa Murkowski would be an excellent choice as would Maine's Susan Collins and Olympia Snow.

If he doesn't go female, he may offer it to McCain.

I also think Ashcroft will leave and Bush will replace him with Guiliani.

Rice stays. It's 50-50 whether Powell stays or leaves.

Bush will send in more troops and Iraq will settle down.

The terrorists will either make a major effort around the world or fade fearing the Bush Administration. This is a stretch, I know!

Social Security will be reformed allowing PSA's.

Bush will do more for minorities including appointing even more to high offices.

Hopefully, Bush will appoint moderates to the Supreme Court rather than extremists.

Because Bush has been "reelected" allies will come back because they will have no choice as they will need America.

On another note, of all the Dems that lost, even though I am glad he lost, I do feel sorry for Daschle. I always liked him but did not agree with him too much.

I am sorry Bunnning won reelection in KY. He is worse than Jesse Helms and Strom Thurmod combined.

Now, what will the Democrats do? The will do one of two things. Either they will move further to the left thinking they did not move far enough this election or they will move to the center in the tradition of Scoop Jackson, Joe Lieberman, and Evan Bayh.

 

+ Payslips will look thinner
+ Gas prices will spike higher
+ Job market gets worser and worser

 

Re: Re: Predictions for Bush second term

Naw, we'll have all that Iraqi oil the anti-Bushites claimed as the only reason we went into Iraq.

 

I hope Cheney retires. It would help neutralize Bush. What is scary is Bush's inability to understand the U.S. Constitution specifically seperates church and state. I'm afraid we are doomed to become a Fundamentalist Christian theocracy rather than a democracy, which makes us the same as Iran or Saudi Arabia.

 

This is a very odd statement considering Senator Kerry, during the last few months of his campaign, spent Sunday mornings campaigning in African-American churches.

The separation of church and state works for all Americans, not just the religious right.

This is again ultra-left hypocrisy.

 

Not Murkowski. She's still got that stigma of having been appointed by her Dad to serve the rest of his term. Just getting re-elected on her own the first time may not be enough to squelch that, she will need most of her full term to prove herself. Remember the Dems were criticized for choosing a neophyte as a V.P. running mate?

Hopefully! We need to continue respect for religion but we don't need the courts turned into churches.

I don't feel sorry for him, didn't care for his attitude. Plus, with Daschle gone it puts Harry Reid (D-NV) in line for the leading Democrat in the Senate. Harry Reid is a good man and more of an across-the-aisle concensus builder rather than a divider like Daschle.

How much more left can the party go than the sickening courting of Michael Moore and his ilk? Giving him so much exposure and treating him like some demi-god rock star at the convention was a mistake. His pre-election "Slacker Uprising Tour" turned off more people than it turned on. "Slacker Uprising" and the ultra-left blame-America-first crowd? Is that the image the Dems really want? That's as far off from the thinking of most Americans as is the ultra-conservative religious right crowd of Pat Robertson. Neither fringe is in touch with most Americans.

Both parties could do well to figure out that the majority of Americans are moderates with slight leanings one way or the other. If the deep division of this past election didn't teach both parties that then what will?


Kit

 

Well here are some predictions:

1. We'll lose our phony wars in Afghanistan and Iraq, after taking hundreds of additional casualties.
2. Osama bin Laden will not be captured, and the forces of al Qaeda will be strengthened.
3. Al Qaeda will unleash a weapon of mass destruction inside the continental US
4. Leaks of classified information and treasonous behavior by our senior government officials will continue.
5. Bush will act like God is guiding him even as we move from disaster to disaster on the foreign policy stage
6. Bush will be thrown out of office in favor of someone who has integrity and knows how to fight a war after al Qaeda makes its next attack on our citizenry - an attack that will make 911 look like kid stuff by comparison
7. The US will ultimately prevail, but only after we get over our notions that our "democracy" can be exported at will, that we have nothing to change in terms of our own behavior in the world, and that we can keep fighting "wars" with TV cameras, impressive looking air attacks, and police-style action against enemy combatants.

For this we will look back and say "shit - I wish we had elected Kerry"....

 

What is scary is that people that have never read the constitution or studied early American history can be so brainwashed by the modern left... they believe everything they hear. The constitution does not specifically seperate church and state. In fact, those words never even appear in the constitution. What the constitution prohibits is a government that mandates one religion like The Church of England did. Today's rendering was NEVER intended.

Brief look at history:

Samuel Adams: | Portrait of Sam Adams | "He who made all men hath made the truths necessary to human happiness obvious to all… Our forefathers opened the Bible to all.” [ "American Independence," August 1, 1776. Speech delivered at the State House in Philadelphia]

John Adams: " The general principles upon which the Fathers achieved independence were the general principals of Christianity… I will avow that I believed and now believe that those general principles of Christianity are as eternal and immutable as the existence and attributes of God.”
• “[July 4th] ought to be commemorated as the day of deliverance by solemn acts of devotion to God Almighty.”
–John Adams in a letter written to Abigail on the day the Declaration was approved by Congress

“The Law given from Sinai [The Ten Commandments] was a civil and municipal as well as a moral and religious code.”
John Quincy Adams. Letters to his son. p. 61

Charles Carroll - signer of the Declaration of Independence | Portrait of Charles Carroll
" Without morals a republic cannot subsist any length of time; they therefore who are decrying the Christian religion, whose morality is so sublime and pure...are undermining the solid foundation of morals, the best security for the duration of free governments." [Source: To James McHenry on November 4, 1800.]

Benjamin Franklin: | Portrait of Ben Franklin
“ God governs in the affairs of man. And if a sparrow cannot fall to the ground without his notice, is it probable that an empire can rise without His aid? We have been assured in the Sacred Writings that except the Lord build the house, they labor in vain that build it. I firmly believe this. I also believe that, without His concurring aid, we shall succeed in this political building no better than the builders of Babel” –Constitutional Convention of 1787

also Ben Franklin - In the beginning of the contest with Britain, when we were sensible of danger, we had daily prayers in this room for Divine protection. Our prayers, Sir, were heard, and they were graciously answered… do we imagine we no longer need His assistance?” [Constitutional Convention, Thursday June 28, 1787]

In Benjamin Franklin's 1749 plan of education for public schools in Pennsylvania, he insisted that schools teach "the excellency of the Christian religion above all others, ancient or modern."

I could go on and on and on....literally. Early text books taught children to learn the alphabet using Bible verses. A representation of The 10 Commandments still hangs in the Supreme Court. Tax dollars still pay for military and congressional chaplains.

Pug

 

I fear just the opposite. I'm worried that the right-wing base of the Republicans will feel that the election was a mandate for their vision of America, and that they will try to ram through some kind of social change agenda. The danger of conservative hubris is very real right now.

I suspect that there might be growing tension between the Schwarzenegger-Giuliani-Powell-McCain style moderates and the rural Southern-style "red state" cultural activists in the party.

It's gonna be interesting to see which way Bush tilts. In his first term, he talked the cultural-militant's talk now and then, but his top appointments were loaded with party moderates.

A balanced budget is gonna be tough if they try to ram through more tax cuts simultaneous with keeping national security spending high.

I don't see our forces pulling out until the new Iraqi army is strong enough, and the country's new government stable enough, to take over. That's going to take a while.

Perhaps our presence will fade away rather than end abruptly. As the Iraqis come on line, our troop numbers can be reduced and they won't need to expose themselves as often by patrolling. But they will still be there for several years to come, to supply additional muscle in case the Iraqi forces need backup. Eventually even that might be wound down to a training and liason group of some kind.

Of course the new Iraqi government might unravel in an anti-American direction, and they might request us to leave. I'm not convinced that the agenda of most of the Iraqi people coincides with our own (or even that it is consistent among themselves). If we are told to leave and Iraq is heading in a direction that we don't like, that could put us in a real spot.

 

I predict that there will be a WMD attack in the U.S. (Not because Bush was reelcted. It was going to happen anyway.) I'm sure that most reasonable people who know anything about the subject would agree that there is a very good chance of this happening.

After that, we don't need any predictions. Tommy Franks has told us what will happen. It will be the end of this "experiment" with Constitutional government. Martial law will be declared.

Again, this is not a prediction. It's the words of the man who lead the war in Iraq and introduced George W. Bush at the Republican convention.

What then? Listen to right-wing talk shows and you will know. Michael Savage, one of the most popular right-wingers, is calling for the establishment of concentration camps.

He's also calling for the Democratic party to be declared a terrorist organization. Anyone who has ever contributed to or openly supported any Democratic group or candidate could be arrested.

Savage also says we should give up this silly idea that torture is bad. We should openly torture people suspected of terrorism (including the above-mentioned Democrats.)

I am not joking, and I am not making any of this up. This is coming directly from some of the most prominent conservatives in this country.

 

You raise some interesting observations, but even as a liberal I find all of this hard to imagine in terms of actually happening. Our democracy will survive, no matter what sort of terrorist attack takes place. Our nation will not endorse nor tolerate torture, at least not the "overt kind" that leaves physical damage (we already engage in plenty of sleep deprivation and other borderline techniques, which I also find abhorrent). Democratic Party declared a "terrorist organization"? Only in some wacko partisan mind - not as a general theme of the Republican party or whoever else is in power.

This sounds like the kind of stuff that gives the left a bad name - overreacting to signals and propaganda from the far right. If a WMD does go off inside the US, there will be serious consequences, and our democracy may have to be somewhat modified for a period of time, but the same kind of things happened in the American Civil War, and we are just fine today. It is not in the nature of the USA to steer permanently towards dictatorship.

 

I predict that we are stuck with GW and his brand of conservatism (which, IMHO is not conservative at all in the strict sense of the word) for the next 4 years. Accept it and get over it. I can only hope and pray that the USSS is out there doing the best job they can do to protect the man. I would hate to have the bigger A-hole Cheney in charge (god help our country if that ever occurs).

Watch out for the Supreme Court nominations. Renquist will either die or retire next year. Blackmun will be next (both are getting up there).

Now that the Cons have been in power on all government levels for 4 years now, who are they going to blame? What will Ann Coulter rant about now?

 

I listen to right-wing talk shows and have never heard of Michael Savage. He is NOT one of the most popular right-wingers, and he is NOT one of the most prominent conservatives in this country. Don't try to portray him as one. If he has truly said these things, he is an idiot, but don't try to convince anyone that this is the agenda of the right wing.

 

I think his program is called "Savage Nation", it is syndicated with a national reach, and he is an idiot.

 

We can only hope. I hope GW can get Supreme Court Justices who will overturn Roe v. Wade, the blight on our nation that is 7 times worse than the holocaust (and still counting). He should have a litmus test for all justices. That would be a good thing!

 

Yes, he is. He has the 4th most popular radio show in the country, syndicated to over 300 stations, and it is growing.

Savage's book The Enemy Within is currently ranked number 513 at Amazon. In comparison, Bill O'Reilly's Who's Looking Out for You is ranked 1,158.

Here's a quote from Savage's book:
"Federal courts and judges in America today are to be more feared than al-Qaida"

His previous book The Savage Nation spent 30 weeks on the New York Times bestseller list.

For the past two years, Talkers Magazine named Savage as one of America's top talk radio hosts. In the latest survey of recognizability, Michael Savage beats Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity according to The Benchmark Company, a market research firm.

Savage briefly worked for MSNBC until he told a gay caller, "I hope you get AIDS and die."

He said all of this and much more along the same lines. It may not be your agenda, but it is the agenda of a very, very large portion of the right.

What I find particularly interesting is how the others on the right who don't agree with this choose to pretend that it doesn't exist.

 

Who are 1,2, and 3?

So? O'Reilly doesn't speak for the right either.

Like when Michael Moore says George Bush is killing our children?

Big Deal. Lots of books do.

My point is just because the guy has a right wing radio show does not mean he speaks for the majority of conservatives. I'm not pretending it doesn't exist. Nonsense like this exists on both sides. Actually the best way to remove a radio show from the air IS to ignore it. What I take issue with is when you write things like
"This is coming directly from some of the most prominent conservatives in this country." That statement is simply not true!

The guy might have a popular radio, so does Howard Stern, but he is not a prominent conservative.

Just trying to set the record straight.