Poor Treatment

Discussion in 'Online & DL Teaching' started by Kizmet, Nov 1, 2018.

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  1. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

  2. jonlevy

    jonlevy Member

    LOL - she just noticed there were non tenured faculty? Wait till she finds about the adjuncts. How did she get her PhD?
     
  3. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

    I didn't see anything in the article that indicated that the author "just noticed" anything.
     
  4. jonlevy

    jonlevy Member

    Typical elitiest tenure faculty blather: "“I think there’s just kind of a general lack at the University of how we’re going to see this role and how do we support these people in their role,” she said."

    The only answer is to get rid of adjunct positions and hire employees. Not enough money? Then get rid of these elite money sucking tenured faculty and at least offer everyone else a job and benefits. It's called equal pay for equal work.
     
  5. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Other than being really, really hard to fire, I'm unsure why tenured faculty would cost more than untenured full time faculty.
     
  6. Kizmet

    Kizmet Moderator Staff Member

    You probably know much more about this than me but I've had the idea that at many universities (let's say a flagship state university) there are "faculty" doing research and they don't actually teach very much. So if you're not at all interested in research then I suppose you would consider firing all those people and you'd likely save some money. At the same time, Jon's tone is such that I think a tenured PhD must have shot his dog or something like that.
     
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  7. jonlevy

    jonlevy Member

    Steve? Do you know how much adjuncts are paid in relation to tenured faculty - about two thirds less and no benefits. What is fair about that?
     
  8. jonlevy

    jonlevy Member

    Kizmet, have you ever worked for one of these online universities? I have and it is not very good pay and it never goes up, just down. The system is inherently unfair to non tenure faculty including adjuncts. They do not have this sort of peonage in Europe and seem to get by just fine. I don't have anything against tenure faculty but thier expensive tenure and benefits are used as the excuse not to pay everyone else a living wage.
     
  9. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    I said full time, not adjunct.
     

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