POLL: Who is going to win the presidential election?

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Who is going to win the presidential election?

Poll closed Nov 7, 2016.
  1. Hillary Clinton

    59.1%
  2. Donald Trump

    40.9%
  1. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    ......
    Huh?
     
  2. Life Long Learning

    Life Long Learning Active Member

    In history the Left Wing is the violent wing like Soviets/Mao, Hitler (national SOCIALIST). Right wing violence is reactionary to Gov't overreach in the US (think Janet Reno).
     
  3. b4cz28

    b4cz28 Active Member

    I have a lot of leanings to the left, but as I grow up I realize I need not the Democrats to express those needs. In fact the people on the left tend to be everything they claim those on the right are and that's frustrating to me.

    Trump is the one that was pro LGBT rights, Hilary has not been most of her life. She just changed her position to run for office.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6I1-r1YgK9I

    Hillary Clinton's LGBT Hypocrisy | The Daily Caller

    I have to say I was sickened by the Trump supporters acting crazy, for them rioting, supporting racist speech. That was all fake though.

    Remember That Viral Video of Trump Fans Supporting Hitler Quotes? It

    I was ashamed that those young Mexican kids were writing F*** Trump on signs and waving a Mexican flag, Till I read the emails that it was Hillary supporters being paid to do this, posted on a website site on by a pro Hilary group.

    DNC Emails Here: Staff Staged 'Fake' Anti-Trump Protests, Used Bernie's Jewish Faith to Discredit Him, Colluded With MSM, More... | Truth Revolt

    I was truly disgusted as a person of color at the racist emails that were being passed around by the DNC. They are the one who have a culture of racism and oppression.

    DNC Emails Here: Staff Staged 'Fake' Anti-Trump Protests, Used Bernie's Jewish Faith to Discredit Him, Colluded With MSM, More... | Truth Revolt

    I was surprised at how well Hillary did against Sanders in the debates, until I found out she already had the answers.

    Now we all have to pretend that the Trump supporters are the racist ones, the media is at fault in race baiting once more. Painting a false narrative that does not inflames, yet grants permission to act poorly.

    PORTLAND VIDEO: Lady Trump Supporter Gets Attacked In Open Streets

    Anti-bullying activist allegedly attacks Trump-supporting foe, 74 - NY Daily News

    Man Describes Attack; Crowd Yelled ‘That’s A White Boy Trump Supporter’ « CBS Chicago

    Video: High School Girl Viciously Attacked For Supporting Donald Trump » Alex Jones' Infowars: There's a war on for your mind!

    https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2016/06/03/ugly-bloody-scenes-in-san-jose-as-protesters-attack-trump-supporters-outside-rally/

    http://dailycaller.com/2016/11/10/hillary-supporters-assault-white-trump-supporter-video/http://dailycaller.com/2016/11/10/hillary-supporters-assault-white-trump-supporter-video/

    Man attacked by mob shouting 'You voted Trump' in car park – VIDEO | Metro News
     
  4. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    The left are the biggest hypocrites on the face of the planet. They get away with it because the propaganda wing of the Democrat party (that masquerades as the media) never, ever calls them out on it.
     
  5. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    Here are pics of rent-a-riot protesters being bused in to protest Trump's electoral win:

    Guy Sick At What's Inside Convoy Of Unmarked Buses Near Texas Trump Event
    (scroll down to see all the pics)

    It's not a grass roots protest! It's a politically funded rent-a-riot!
     
  6. heirophant

    heirophant Well-Known Member

    Here's an interesting thing written by a former New York Times reporter.

    Nocookies | The Australian

    Public editor Liz Spayd... marveled at an election night flip from an 84% Clinton-to-win assessment by the paper's elaborate data operation, to a 95% likelihood for Trump just a few hours later.

    "As the Times begins a period of self-reflection, I hope its editors will think hard about the half of America the paper too seldom covers", wrote Spayd.


    Unfortunately that coverage would likely be a caricature, given the Times' internal culture.

    By and large, talented reporters scrambled to match stories with what internally was often called "the narrative". We were occasionally asked to map a narrative for our various beats a year in advance, square the plan with the editors, then generate stories that fit the pre-designated line.

    The bigger shock came on being told, at least twice, by editors who were describing the paper's daily Page One meeting, "We set the agenda for the country in that room".
     
  7. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    The leftist elitists group of "The Rich 100"

    Here is a bizarre article about Soros strategizing how to manipulate Americans:

    Here are five politburo cash-cow websites operating in the United States:

    1. Democracy Alliance donor club:
    Democracy Alliance: Community. Strategy. Investment. Impact. (general website)
    Jobs at the DA - Democracy Alliance (strategic plan)

    2. State Innovation Exchange:
    https://stateinnovation.org/ (general website)
    https://stateinnovation.org/about/ (about)
    https://www.facebook.com/stateinnovationexchange/ (facebook)

    3. Media Matters:
    https://mediamatters.org/
    https://twitter.com/mmfa?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor (Twitter account)

    4. Center for American Progress (egregiously classified as a nonprofit, nonpartisan organization under section 501(c)(4) of the IRS):
    https://www.americanprogress.org/
    https://www.americanprogressaction.org/about/capaf-mission/ (about)
    https://www.facebook.com/americanprogress (facebook)

    5. Catalist
    Catalist (general website)
     
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  8. b4cz28

    b4cz28 Active Member


    This whole thing does nothing but make me sick. I saw today that almost 2 million illegal votes were cast for Hillary. 2 Million....
     
  9. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    It's very sad.

    Here is another strange exposé caught on videotape:

    YouTube showing 5-blocks of bused in agitators (46 seconds):
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2OVHb-zc4Lw

    You really have to watch the video to understand the magnitude of the paid-for rental-riots that are being bused in by Soros and his billionaire agitators. It is deeply saddening.
     
  10. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    Then Donald Trump won the popular vote (and not Hillary Clinton).

     
  11. Bruce

    Bruce Moderator

    Wasn't quite enough though, was it?
     
  12. jhp

    jhp Member

    I believe the number reported is 3 million.

     
  13. Maniac Craniac

    Maniac Craniac Moderator Staff Member

    The story has been picked up and spread mostly by right wing conspiracy theorists, with no evidence presented. The supposed source of all this is a report on votefraud.org by one Gregg Phillps. I'm not familiar with votefraud.org or Gregg Phillips. How did he wind up determining this? The web address redirects to another site entirely, which looks rather sketchy, tbh, and I can't even find the cited report anywhere on that site.

    :thinking:
     
  14. b4cz28

    b4cz28 Active Member

    Why do you think that people want to do away with ID laws?
     
  15. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Interestingly, in Dominica it's the the opposition party that is demanding voter ID laws because they believe that the ruling party is staying in power in part because of illegitimate votes. At least here no one can say their motivations are racist.
     
  16. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    After reading your post, I could not stop laughing. Hysterically and uncontrollably. OMG that was great! LOL

    Yes, you are right (at this juncture) e.g. there are no reputable sources showing how the 3 million figure was calculated and from whence it came. Maybe substantiated documentation will be forthcoming?

    Bill Clinton's "Motor Voter Law" abolished the requirement for non-citizens and illegal aliens to prove that they are citizens, prior to casting their votes. They only have have to:
    1. Show an ID card (or a drivers license?) and
    2. Check a box stating that they are citizens.
    If illegal aliens perform steps one and two (above), then they are free to cast their illegal votes.

    Interesting article:
    https://www.cato.org/publications/congressional-testimony/motor-voter-act-voter-fraud
     
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  17. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    I've never understood why so many people think that "I'm laughing at you!" is a persuasive argument. It just makes the person look childish.

    Doubly so in that it's not unreasonable to ask for strong evidence for a strong claim. Hell, it's not even disagreement.
     
  18. me again

    me again Well-Known Member

    "Maniac Craniac" was not being laughed at. Nay, not at all. However, he made a valid and humorous point: A non-referenced opinion was posted as being factual, when the source was just an opinion that was posted at a blog. That's what was being laughed at. And Maniac Craniac had the common sense to point it out.

    LOL

    Nonetheless, voter fraud is a horrible issue that needs to be addressed pronto by Congress.

     
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  19. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    I think it's reasonable to have a requirement that voters prove citizenship to become registered to vote, and to show ID at the polls, if and only if there is no cost whatsoever to comply.
     
  20. jhp

    jhp Member

    two thoughts.

    anti-ID laws are by their very nature are racist to the core.

    It is a logical fallacy to presume the study is faulty because of the source. 180 million records were cross referenced. They did not claim that 3 million voted for Mrs. Clinton or Mr. Trump. Their claim was that the review of 180 million records extrapolate to 3 million votes which should not have been accepted.
     
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