Politics & Schools

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  1. Vonnegut

    Vonnegut Well-Known Member

  2. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Unfortunately, Republicans are disconnected from reality right now. As long as Newsmax and OAN is a bigger threat to Fox ratings than CBS, NBC and ABC, I'm afraid it will remain like this.
     
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  3. Rachel83az

    Rachel83az Well-Known Member

    I think the funniest part is that, if this were true, this wouldn't even really be an issue for European-style fully enclosed toilets. With the ginormous door gaps in American restrooms, you could see the privates of who's using the litterboxes, whether you want to or not. With European toilets, nothing would be on display.
     
  4. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    I am NOT scooping that up.
     
  5. Vonnegut

    Vonnegut Well-Known Member

    Rich, you’ve won the internetz this week!
     
  6. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    I believe conservative politics is hostile to the institution of public school. Now they got to attack it AND further their overall agenda at the same time.

    And yes, a big chunk of homeschooling movement is part of prolonged attack on education as a common and a public good.
     
  7. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    If you ask Republicans you will get the following response:

    Conservative politics is hostile to radical left indoctrination that is used in the schools, its not hostile to the institution of public school, but to the left radicals who use the institution ans a tool.
    They would argue that a big chunk of homeschooling movement is part of prolonged protection against liberal Socialist Marxist indoctrination that is presented as a common and a public "good.

    School and College sports is also affected by the insanity:

    "The National Collegiate Athletic Association updated their policy on men switching to the women’s team (and vice-versa) and competing as if they were born that way.
    This assault on fundamental fairness threatens to ruin sports for the ladies, and may well end up at the Supreme Court under Title IX."

    Bill, who is really disconnected from the reality?
     
  8. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Stanislav

    Parents are focusing on what they call “curriculum transparency” now, and this is really straightforward. This is just letting parents know what their kids are being taught.
    "Technology has made it easy. Show what the lesson plan is.

    Show what the kids are learning. Parents can then supplement it more at home. They can talk to their kids about it. This is nothing but upside. See, this is the problem they’re gonna have here. Their claim of, “Oh, it’s gonna make parents upset.” If students are being taught things by teachers that make parents uncomfortable, the parents have a right to know. The parents have a right to know.

    Now, yeah, maybe there’s someone who’s gonna say, “Oh, yeah, you can’t teach that,” and they he got some weird ideas about, I don’t know, Flat Earth Society or something. That’s not what they’re worried about. The teachers unions and the public school system want to continue to get away with teaching mixed Marxist propaganda, and they don’t want anyone to be able to stand in the way, and all that has to happen is for people to know — parents to know — what’s really going on."
    NBC reported - "Lawmakers in at least 12 states have introduced legislation to require schools to post lists of all of their teaching materials online, including books, articles and videos. The governors of Arizona, Florida and Iowa, who have previously raised concerns about how teachers discuss racism’s impact on politics and society, called for curriculum transparency laws in speeches to their legislatures this month.”
    And if parents are wrong, then nothing to wary about right?

    Why do we know that the Marxists want to get the kids young? Why do the commies want to brainwash your children before they actually know what commies are? Then it’s a lot harder to undo the work, right?
     
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  9. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Almost 3/4 of Republicans believe that Trump won the 2020 election.

    Most Republicans seem to believe that Critical Race Theory is taught in elementary schools and is some kind of liberal take over or something. See drivel in your last post.

    This opening post article is an example of some crack pot on social media making up a lie and Republicans believing it. Very similar to what is that nonsense about Trump still being President and will soon pounce on and destroy evil Democrats that all drink baby blood and are pedophiles, QANON or something like that?

    Why are Republicans disconnected from reality? I believe because their source for news is Fox News, Newsmax, OAN and social media which are not telling Republicans the truth. MediaBiasFactCheck.com is a good source supporting the fact that Fox, Newsma and OAN give false information in their broadcasts.

    Like you've said in the past, there are a few Republicans that watch CBS, ABC and NBC like my wife. That is probably the main reason that a quarter Republicans believe Biden won the 2020 election.
     
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  10. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    I agree that 3/4 of Republicans think that Dem's cheated and this is why Trump lost elections in 2020.
    This opening post article is stupid satire, just like the article about a man in San Diego molesting a gorilla, so many believed that cra*.
    Its the next thing after transgender, "people who think they are animals"
    Republicans are disconnected from the Lib's reality that's true.
    Their source for news is the reality of high and rising crime, inflation, economy.
    Starting back in February 2020, things were on fire in the economy, almost everything was working well and then covid arrived almost like a neutron bomb that goes off there.
    We lost something like nine million jobs in the pandemic and now we’ve come back six million back, but it’s not increasing any longer.
    So we’ve got a long way to go to catch up, and then we’ve got a long way to go to make up for the losses that we had!
    You’ve got a supply-side problem now. We need to incentivize workers to come back to work by increasing their incentive to go to work.
    This not so much about source of news, because these issues bother Democrats not less then Republicans.
     
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  11. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    You are REALLY believing things like that? Dear God.
     
  12. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    In part? Because of the decades-in-the-making distrust of anything society as a whole can trust. Like a public school. The excuse changes over time; it used to be forced busing and the horrible prospect of racial integration; now it's CRT and the bathroom scare. "Cruelty is the point". "Ignorance is the point".
     
  13. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    And yet -
    The thing with crude and obvious propaganda is that it works. Even, and perhaps especially, on people who grew up surrounded by propaganda and for that reason believed themselves immune. I see it all the time.
     
  14. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    That is another demonstration, in my view, of the disconnect with reality being suffered in the Republican base because of the inaccurate news sources they consume.
     
  15. Vonnegut

    Vonnegut Well-Known Member

    While I’m not a fan of curriculum transparency, for non-political reasons, the notion that parents are pushing it in order to better supplement learning is an absurdly questionable defense.
     
  16. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    Yes. Most people who vote Republican have a set of concerns, some real, some manufactured. It's how Republican politicians get their votes.

    Republican politicians on policy levels stand for essentially two things: lower taxes and less regulation. For this, they need to dismantle most of the public sector. This would be unpopular - hence all these serial scares that are pushed on people.

    One thing I find hilarious is how the Reps got to scare monger around "Defund the Police" concept (which is, to be fair, a stupid-ass slogan). All the while the real, quite open, Republican agenda is "defund ALL the government; maybe EXCEPT the police for now". Or, in bumper-sticker form, "starve The Beast". "The Beast" is everything including public schools, libraries, public health, the Post Office, even clean water (remember Flynt?).
     
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  17. Rachel83az

    Rachel83az Well-Known Member

    With all the nonsense floating around lately, I had forgotten that Democrats are "big government" while Republicans are SUPPOSEDLY "little government".
     
  18. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Do you know why there is such a thing as a "Big Lie"? Because the size of the sucker pool in this country is...wait for it...BIG.

    It simply would not exist if this country wasn't rife with gullible people willing to buy into it.
     
  19. Stanislav

    Stanislav Well-Known Member

    Motivated cognition. People do not have time or resources or motivation to get to the truth; so they believe whoever flatters them or plays to preconceived notions the best. For example, a lot of pandering to some people's desire to ignore common good (like, not wearing the mask) and not be criticized for it. A lot of people, as it turns out, crave the permission to act like d1cks to their fellow men. Funny how this works even on otherwise decent people.
     
  20. Rich Douglas

    Rich Douglas Well-Known Member

    Enough to get the biggest one elected president. And enough (with some other shenanigans helping) to do it again.
     

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