Please help.

Hi everyone,
I am looking for a low cost regionally accredited degree institution(s) online. Can you point out few? I know Kennedy Western University, which a friend of mine pointed out to be cheap, is not accredited but licensed. I do not know all about KWU. Any info on KWU?
Many thanks.

 

Hi JW

If you want to know a great deal about K-W, just click search in the top right hand corner of the page, and type Keenedy Western. You'll find out more than you ever wanted to know. As for REPUTABLE choices, it might help if you could tell us what you are looking for. There are an amazing number of low cost RA choices.

 

K-W

Good question. You'll find on this site many with opinions. I have completed all graduation requirements at K-W, and I will be offically graduating this Feb. I personally found the work to be challanging. I had to complete a series of classes and write a 75 page thesis, for the BS requirements. Futhermore, the instuctors are the same you'd find at conventaional colleges, but they work parttime at K-W. My faculty advisor was a professor at ST. Ambrose College in WI, and he was very responsive in helping me with the fianl paper.

To many, the choice of a State Liscenced College, may not be as readily marketable as a Regionally Accredited school. Why, because some employers stipulate that the degree be from a RA/NA school. However, I geneally have not found this to be the case. If you run an internet search you'll find many professors in academia w/K-W, MA's and PHD's. That said, the majority of these folks have undergrad degrees that are RA. However, what I find is that these professors are obviously not ashamed of the fact that they went the K-W route, and use it as a selling point on their CV.

Kennedy-Western is fully legally able to confer degrees as a State Licenced Post-Secondary Edaucational Insitution. The state of WY DOE has conducted an audit, to asssure the school is meeting state requirements. The school also imposes a self-audit annually, to assure the integrity of its cirricula. However, the school is not Regionally Acrredited, which expemts a RA school from having to be state regualted. Many feel that the Regionally Accredited route, holds more merit, however, it is up to the choice of the potential student.

Thanks,

RJT

 

RJT

You have wisdom beyond your years.

 

and, blows smoke really well, too......I would be interested in the large number of faculty at the R/A schools that have their masters and Ph.D.'s from K-W. I really find this hard to believe!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Re: K-W

RJT:

For what it’s worth, I, for one, do not doubt the veracity of your claim of having found the cirricula at a State Liscenced Edaucational Insitution challanging.

 

I see that you found your way here James. Welcome!

I’m confident that some of the "older" guys/gals on this board will be of great help to you. They sure have been for me. You'll also find such notable names as Dr. J. Bear hanging out here as well. As I mentioned to you on the "other" forum, his books are considered the authoritative source for most aspects of D/L at all study levels.

You’ll also notice other interesting, albeit anonymous personalities here. They tend to hawk everything from miraculous healing tonics to Stated Licensed University Degrees. Just kidding about the tonic BTW.

Just remember, if it seems just too good to be true, it is.

Again, welcome.

Cheers...Randy

 

Another Prospective

Here is how the course work at K-W worked. I had a required number of courses to complete, so I chose one of my courses to be Management & Superision. Within a week I was sent the sylabus and what text I had to by, along with the Instructors information. I basicly followed the sylabus, and read chapter by chpter, also doing the workbook work. When I felt coinfident that I new the material, I took a practice exam. If I scored well, then I took the final, if not, I re-studied. The Final was on line and timed, because the tests are online and timed, there is no need for a proctor. However, if a course isn't on-line a proctor is required. The tests are created by instuctor's, but generally consist of 75-100, multiple choice/fill in the blank questions. The key is you only have two hours to complete the test, and the questioned can not be answered twice. YOU MUST KNOW the material, in-depth to pass. Once-completed, it is automaticlly graded. If you fail, you get one re-take. When you factor that several courses are required, plus a thesis proposal, and a 75 page thesis. When you factor what is required, I can say without any hesitation that K-W is not a mill. Is the cirriculium less than an RA school at the UG level, perhaps. However, the school doesn't accept the young/inexperienced, most students come to the school with an AA. Else, the school mandates that the student must complete a battery of exams, to demostrate the acquired learnings or experience are comparable. The school does assign life credit towards a degree, but in my case I had to complete a detailed form, back-it up with verifiable detal, and have all my transcripts form other schools forwarded to the school. Are the number of courses required less than an RA school, again, perhaps - but in my opinion, the courses that must be completed are just as difficult, and are designed by RA professors. The problem I have with all the K-W critics are, that, other than Oracle Guy, noone else has gone to the school, so than how can fair judgement be passed.

K-W is a fully legal and compliant, post secondary educational institution, full complying with the laws of WY, for state liscencure.

Thanks,

RJT

 

O enquirer! Read the above post c a r e f u l l y. By indirection find direction out.

 

Re: Another Prospective

Prospective? I am starting to believe your spelling errors may not be errors at all.

Take care,
Tony

 

Re: Another Prospective

RJT:

I don’t think I can agree with you that only KW students, and noone else, have the proper prospective to pass judgement on the rigor of the cirriculium of a school with state liscencure, based on the fact that he or she basicly followed the sylabus created by instuctor's, new the material in detal, and was able to demostrate learnings by passing an automaticlly graded (albeit administered without superision) multiple choice exam that allowed unlimited practice (or at least until the student felt coinfident) and permitted a retake if he or she failed.

Personally, I believe that a student’s work should speak for itself. RJT, why don’t you post some excerpts from your 75-page thesis? That way, everyone can see and judge for themselves the quality of work required at Kennedy-Western University.

 

What are you guys talking about?? According to my latest edition "Buck-Wheat say OTAY Unabbridged Dictionary", every single word is spelled correctly!

Seriously, I should NOT be making fun (I am a pretty bad speller). I have an associate's from an RA school and working on a bachelors from an RA school as well. I have a feeling that my spelling will be just as bad once I receive my next degree (RA or not).

If it were not for the spelling I think RJT's writing is pretty good! That was the first time I noticed his spelling when people pointed it out. I think he is in the HR field so I would imagine he knows how to write pretty well. He probably knows how to write, do spreadsheets, powerpoint, flashy colorful stuff, and all silly boring stuff

I can't find a spelling checker on the message post page. Maybe that should be on the suggestion thread.... (SPELL CHECKER).

Best Regards,

Bill

 

Re: Prospective

pro·spec·tive Pronunciation Key (pr-spktv)
adj.

Likely to become or be: prospective clients.

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Tony

Just commenting on RJT's excellent use of mill vocabulary, not making fun of anyone's spelling errors.

 

After reading this entire page, I am stunned. The way in which many individuals replied to RJT is inconsiderate, and demonstrates ignorance as well as insecurity.

Those of you who supposedly have knowledge of the DL subject decided to attack spelling errors rather than address the issues. Do your "RA" degrees make you better than RJT who is obviously trying to improve himself? Yes, his degree may be less accepted; in fact, it may never be accepted. However, you have chosen to dish out jokes and make insults rather than discuss this with him in a professional manner.

I am the associate editor of site similar to this one, and we never allow these types of personal attacks. This is especially true since our site, just like this one, does not have spell check. I am surprised that such activity is permitted on a site dedicated to higher education.

Grow up guys

MSP

JD, (Candidate beginning fall 03')
MBA, (Current candidate)

B.S., Roger Williams University
ASB, Center for Degree Studies

 

Spelling

Agreed. I always cut and paste out of Word myself! But you gotta admit, given RJT's constant beating of the KW = Harvard drum, she/he shoud have at least mastered a spell checker.

Cheers...Randy

 

While less than charitable, you have to admit: 1. it is pretty funny 2. that RJT brings it on by continually droning on about the high caliber learning institution known as Kennedy-Western. Hey, they require a whole 5 classes for a B.A.! They must be good.

Seriously, we have been dealing with the same logical fallacies from RJT for what seems like months. He/she has been nonresponsive to serious discussion and has played fast and loose with the truth.

 

to: sp 9624

My dear Sir or Madam,

I simply exhorted the enquirer to read the above post carefully. But since you raise the issue of spelling errors, let me make a few observations.

1) I have every sympathy with one who makes spelling errors. My vision is deteriorating and there is nerve damage in my hands. As a result, it is hard for me to see print on the monitor screen and hard to type at all.

2) Nonetheless, I bother to attempt to correct my spelling errors. I don't catch all of them, to be sure, but I don't let them all through for fear of being accused of, say, orthographic profiling.

3) The posts by our bad speller are also marred by bad grammar and poor style. Perhaps K-W products are no worse than the average. It would seem incumbent upon someone arguing for the excellence of the school he attended to write standard English.

4) I did not reply to RJT. I replied to jwolobah.

5) It is politically correct to resort to ad hominem attacks when mere analysis of the text isn't helping one's cause. Am I ignorant or insecure? Perhaps, but you have no way of knowing the former unless I exhibit ignorance of a matter upon which you are an expert, and you have no way knowing the latter unless you are my confessor, my God, or my ex-wife (who was a universal expert). I am an amateur, not a professional poster, so if I have dealt with rjt's ignorance in an amateurish way I am simply running true to form. You do not know, moreover, whether my degrees are RA. Indeed, sir, you do not know whether I hold any degrees at all.

6) You are correct in saying that this site is dedicated to higher education. Accordingly, I am pleased that jwolobah is considering options other than K-W--options where jwolobah might actually get what jwolobah pays for.

I am pleased, my dear sir (or madam) that you have attained the exalted position of an Editor. As the last in a long line of semi-literate Transylvanian peasants, I applaud you for your achievement. It is time to dung my garden, so I must close, while remaining as ever your fond

Uncle Janko.

 

Re: Another Prospective

RJT is either a shill for K-W or has been totally sucked into every lie this degree mill has spewed. He makes many probably false statements like, "most students come to the school with an AA", and never backs up anything that he says. He very seldom even responds to questions.

Regarding the life experience awarded by K-W, it's a total joke. For example, RJT claimed that he had an AA and a total of 103 RA credits going in and had to take 6 classes to graduate. Others have said that they had no credits transferring in and still only had to take 6 classes to graduate. It seems that everyone must take 5-7 classes to graduate no matter what their life experience is. The life experience angle is a pure con job in order to trick people into thinking that the school is academic rigorous. At the same time K-W, like most degree mills, does not publish the graduation requirements but instead has the marketing interface people negotiate them on a case by case basis.

Multiple respected publications have labeled K-W a degree mill as you'll see if you bother doing a search on this forum.

 

Ohhh a new guy pops in and takes everyone to the woodshed? I'm most pleased because obviously some people need all the help they can get. Are you the internet spanker? How much does it pay? Do you get paid per spank or per job or by the hour? Do you do any research before your spanks? Do you have any sense of humor? Do you spank for other things besides spelling flames?

P.S. I hope that you've enjoyed my ignorance as much as I've enjoyed displaying it. Welcome to the forum, Mr. 9624.

 

Re: Another Prospective

I forgot to mention that K-W is not fully legal as RJT has inaccurately claimed many times. They will not admit students from the state that they physically reside, CA. K-W degrees are illegal in New Jesey and Oregon. http://www.osac.state.or.us/oda/unaccredited.html

I understand that the K-W degrees are probably also illegal in other states but I don't really know since I'm not a lawyer and this type of thing is very difficult to keep up with. However, I believe that Oregon is the only state that officially lists, on the internet, what degrees are illegal in the state.