PCDI/Ashworth College - MHC Degree

Oh, forget it. It doesn't disturb me at all. Personally, I don't give a rat's ass how well you write. But *you* ought to do so. I promise I won't ever say anything upsetting to you again. Your belligerent ignorance ought to be upsetting enough to you. The two books suggested have been very helpful, and the latter one even entertaining, to many students. Have a nize day.

 

Janko,

this isn't worth a reply but here goes,

IGNORANT! this just confirms my earlyer concerns about this web site ,maybe I don't belong here, or I should return after I get my degree and, hopefully I can write and I won't be so IGNORANT anymore so I to can be a seinor member and insult people that are just looking for advice.....

I don't dislike you Janko but you are getting on my nerves..

Bruce if you see this posting I hope your proud of your web site..

Best Wishes

 

Bruce has every reason to be proud of this website. The caliber of advice given and the quality of his moderation are second to none.

 

Hmm. I guess I see, now, ran60, why I earlier mistook you for a teenager. For a man who claims to be in his mid-forties, you sure are ready for a fight... and seem to think that you get to control what kind of help/advice is offered here.... and in what spirit.

Or maybe you're coming here from one of the other fora where potshots at certain members here are routinely taken and so, therefore, you already think you know whom you're going to like and/or dislike... and, therefore, with whom you're going to be impatient and/or even abusive.

If this is just your personality, then I'm guessing you get smacked alot in life... no?

Oh, yeah... one more thing: Please stop apologizing for things if you don't really mean them. We prefer you'd just be a jerk, and not disingenuous, too.

I'm sorry you made it to mid-life without an education... and that it shows. Seriously. But taking shots at those who have what you do not -- and in whom that shows -- just makes you, and not them, look small.

Perhaps you know best, after all.

 

Lots of employers require a drug screening, although it's rarely a urine specimen anymore...it's a hair sample. My brother works for ADT - they have to provide a hair sample prior to employment, randomly at any time during their employment, and every time following a car accident in a company vehicle.

As for me, I've never been asked for a diploma or a transcript, nor have I ever asked someone for theirs, but we absolutely run criminal background and credit checks on everyone. We consider someone's credit history a good indicator of personal organization and responsibility, not to mention their financial position. This is particularly important if the employee will be working with money, controlling inventory, ordering supplies or managing assets.

Pug

 

No problem there. A specifically criminal background check -- as opposed to a broad, open-ended and all-encompassing background check -- is most certainly reasonable. As I stated earlier, an employer gets to know if an employee has ever been convicted of a crime.

Ah! Big problem there. And I was just waiting for someone to make your argument...

And I say that's just folly. One's handling of one's own affairs is not a sufficiently reliable predictor of one's handling of one's employer's affairs to obviate the gross invasion of one's privacy that having one's employer privy to one's deeply personal credit information and rating presents. We are, in this life, surrounded by, for example, auto mechanics who, when working on a client's vehicle, exercize a level of care and professionalism that might seem to belie the old junker that said mechanic drives himself. The professions are rife with people who elevate the act of being stewards of others' property and/or affairs to a higher level, recognizing it as the fiduciary responsibility that it truly is and, therefore, treating it with a formal level of care and trust with which they may not treat their own property and/or affairs. Have you never heard the old saying, "Physician, heal thyself"?

You say that with a straight face like it's completely acceptable to assume that such a thing is any of your employer's business! It boggles the mind!

Once again, the assumptions that are clearly behind this kind of thinking are simply unsound. How a person manages his own money, inventory, supplies and assets has no predictive value, whatsoever, as to how he will handle that of his employer; and an unsound financial position, generally, most certainly does not -- even remotely accurately -- predict whether said employee might become so desperate in his own affairs that he would stoop to stealing from his employer... if that's what your employer is worried about.

The world view that undergirds such silly notions is that of the wealthy and empowered, whose lives have pretty much gone as they had planned them, and who've never taken great risks and had failures... failures that can show-up, somehow, on credit ratings, but which have nothing whatsoever to do with what kind of employee a person would be.

It's just so offensive... and I am always left shaking my head in disbelief at the sheer arrogance of it all.

I mean... please understand: This is not a criticism of you, pugbelly. Rather, it's intended as a criticism -- ne, a stinging indictment -- of your employer, and all other employers who share its values and view regarding this matter.