Oy! Trump might NOT be toast!

Discussion in 'Political Discussions' started by nosborne48, Oct 20, 2024.

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  1. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    I think you misunderstand my posts.
    You most likely didn't read the post about my best friend, an Iranian Muslim who served in USAF, or my friend Ramzi Israeli Arab etc., I have relatives who are immigrants from Mexico, married in to the family, I make big destination between peaceful people and Jihadists, etc.
    I post videos of trends that I see. Am I right all the time? NO
    I have a share of mistakes, yes.
    For example, Muslim Brotherhood organization. It has Muslim in the name of the Organization.
    In the 1930s initially centered on religious and educational programs, the Muslim Brotherhood was seen as providing much-needed social services, slowly got politicized, radicalized. The Brotherhood’s new adherents aimed to reorganize society and government according to Islamic doctrines, and they became vehemently anti-Western.
    Hamas terrorist are part of Muslim Brotherhood. So in this content I think its a warning and requires awareness, not panic.
     
  2. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    I find it very intriguing that Trump supporters don't have an issue him with insulting everyone. He calls people who don't support him low IQ and mentally ill. Why is it a problem when someone says similar things about the MAGA cult?
     
  3. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    For the same reason
    Hillary Clinton. The Democratic nominee, at a New York fundraiser with liberal donors, said "half" of Trump supporters fit into a "basket of deplorables,"
    So we have politicians who say words.
    For some voters it's unacceptable for others it's different.

    I think candidates should restrain themselves from insulting candidates and voters.
     
  4. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    Because it's true?
     
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  5. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    I admit to be clinging to my own stuff. That is, the Republicans this year are doing the grassroots get out the vote activities much different than usual. Elon Musk is doing it and he's basically just throwing money at the problem. Those with a view of what's going on in the precincts don't see much going on. It appears that the Republican ground game may be hobbled this cycle.
     
  6. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Bill Gates has donated $50 million to Kamala Harris’ campaign, a political backing that was originally intended to be private.
    The Microsoft founder confirmed the donation to The New York Times.
    “I support candidates who demonstrate a clear commitment to improving health care, reducing poverty and fighting climate change in the U.S. and around the world,” he said in a statement.
     
  7. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    The difference is that Bill Gates just donated money. Elon Musk took responsibility for the grassroots get out the vote ground game Republican activities. The RNC is not even involved. https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2024/oct/19/trump-campaign-leaked-data-voters-elon-musk
     
  8. sanantone

    sanantone Well-Known Member

    Reportedly, Elon Musk got played. People took the money and didn't knock on doors. His biggest problem, though, is a potential investigation into him offering a $1 million prize to people in swing states.
     
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  9. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

  10. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Why? Especially when it was clear that the situations are not the same?
     
  11. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    Lerner goes down these "whataboutism" rabbit holes that makes far less sense to me than Alice In Wonderland.
     
  12. Bill Huffman

    Bill Huffman Well-Known Member

    I was not even trying to imply that there was anything wrong with Elon Musk donating money. The only point of my post was that Nosborne was clinging to a small hopeful sign that Harris might win the election and in a like manner I too was clinging to a similar hope.
     
  13. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    For what ever its wort, the Russian news NTV TV already stated that early voting in the US, out of 15 million people many gave Trump significant lead and possible a victory.
    They know something we don't or just propaganda as usual?
     
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  14. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Do you really have to ask? Come on.
     
  15. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    Maybe they are watching CNN and making speculations?

    CNN
    https://www.yahoo.com/news/18-million-early-votes-counting-191132817.html
    "Early Tuesday, news reports were citing that more than 15 million Americans had voted. Checking the early voting data CNN gets from election officials and the firms Catalist and Edison Research around noon Tuesday, the figure had grown to more than 18 million. It will continue to grow. For reference, more than 150 million total ballots were cast in 2020.

    This year, in the key state of Georgia, Secretary of State Brad Raffensperger said Sunday on CBS News that he expects up to 70% of the votes in his state will be cast before Election Day.

    One interesting development in the data from Catalist is that in these early reports, there are some hints that Republicans may be cutting into the Democratic edge in early voting.
    More Republicans than Democrats have cast ballots in Nevada, and the parties are on par in North Carolina, according to the early data. That might cause concern for Democrats who remember 2020, when Democratic mail-in votes were critical to Joe Biden’s victory. It could also simply mean Republicans are doing more to encourage early voting."
     
  16. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    That makes it sound like you've forgotten that they're not pundits with no axe to grind, but that their job is to shape Russian public opinion the way that seems most beneficial to the Putin regime.
     
  17. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

    No arguing here.
    I think they jumped on such trend and amplified it. Applying the needed "Interpretation".
     
  18. Lerner

    Lerner Well-Known Member

  19. SteveFoerster

    SteveFoerster Resident Gadfly Staff Member

    Irrelevant. What matters at this point are polls of battleground states, and they're so close that they're not really information either.

    At this point we'll just have to find out.
     
  20. nosborne48

    nosborne48 Well-Known Member

    50/50. How in the name of G-d could this country possibly elect a con man, grifter, and insurrectionist to the Presidency? How is such a thing even remotely possible? No human institution in history has ever proven immortal (though the Papacy certainly has staying power). Has our time come?
     

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